Do I NEED c/c plates?
#1
Do I NEED c/c plates?
Hey all,
I have a question about c/c plates. My plan is to lower my 1990 GT 3/4" - 1", put new shocks and struts, 17x8 w/ 245s in front and 17x9 w/ 275s in back and possibly upgrade rear control arms if I have to remove quad shocks. My question is this, due to the fact that money is not an endless commodity and I already have to buy all that ^^^ stuff, do I HAVE to put c/c plates on? I know all the benefits and plan to do it in the future, but must it be NOW. I have read that lowering less than 1.5" does not require c/c plates, that an alignment shop can get it aligned without. Does that sound accurate? Any advice is appreciated.
P.S. I'm not opposed to good used parts, if anyone knows of any.
Thanks
I have a question about c/c plates. My plan is to lower my 1990 GT 3/4" - 1", put new shocks and struts, 17x8 w/ 245s in front and 17x9 w/ 275s in back and possibly upgrade rear control arms if I have to remove quad shocks. My question is this, due to the fact that money is not an endless commodity and I already have to buy all that ^^^ stuff, do I HAVE to put c/c plates on? I know all the benefits and plan to do it in the future, but must it be NOW. I have read that lowering less than 1.5" does not require c/c plates, that an alignment shop can get it aligned without. Does that sound accurate? Any advice is appreciated.
P.S. I'm not opposed to good used parts, if anyone knows of any.
Thanks
#2
No, you don't need them, but are a NICE addition for improvement of front-end grip
I cannot say for sure if the shoppe will be able to get you to OEM specs, but probably not without the plates. They will give you camber adjustment beyond what you have now and don't believe you have any caster adjustment currently. Lowering your car will give you negative camber and is a good thing for cornering grip, but hard on the inner edge of tire in terms of early wear. Caster is beneficial if you have wide tires, as it helps to keep more of the tires surface on the road as you corner. Both of these things "modify" the feel of the steering wheel to some degree (caster more than camber), but will get used to it over time.
I have some additional info in my suspension guide, so read it up, homie
Jazzer
I cannot say for sure if the shoppe will be able to get you to OEM specs, but probably not without the plates. They will give you camber adjustment beyond what you have now and don't believe you have any caster adjustment currently. Lowering your car will give you negative camber and is a good thing for cornering grip, but hard on the inner edge of tire in terms of early wear. Caster is beneficial if you have wide tires, as it helps to keep more of the tires surface on the road as you corner. Both of these things "modify" the feel of the steering wheel to some degree (caster more than camber), but will get used to it over time.
I have some additional info in my suspension guide, so read it up, homie
Jazzer
#3
Thanks Man, honestly when I posted I hoped you would comment. I have glanced through your suspension guide and found it to be an indispensable bit of info. I will most definitely read it very well before the mods get ordered. I was mostly just looking for a "quick fix" until more money fell off that tree. Thanks again.
#4
how are you lowering the car? buying springs or cutting the stock ones?
You should be good w/o caster/camber plates if your only lowering 3/4-1". You might be able to get camber bolts for your mustang. These allow you to adjust your camber more than stock.
You should be good w/o caster/camber plates if your only lowering 3/4-1". You might be able to get camber bolts for your mustang. These allow you to adjust your camber more than stock.
#5
^ tis true regarding CC bolts, but have heard several issues of them breaking. I have not been inclined to recommend them since I had heard this. CC plates are more expensive and difficult to install, but will allow the second "C" to be adjusted
Jazzer
Jazzer
#6
I just threw it out there as a suggestion since he wants to stay on the cheaper side of things.
I didnt find installing C/C plates that hard. Hardest part was getting the bottom piece to stay while you put the top plate on.
I didnt find installing C/C plates that hard. Hardest part was getting the bottom piece to stay while you put the top plate on.
#7
^ Agreed, they are certainly cheaper and have recommended them in the past.
I have just heard a few things about failures and never heard of a CC plate breaking, so prefer to error on the side of caution when it comes to suspension. I guess some CC plates have broken as well, but less likely for sure.
Jazzer
I have just heard a few things about failures and never heard of a CC plate breaking, so prefer to error on the side of caution when it comes to suspension. I guess some CC plates have broken as well, but less likely for sure.
Jazzer
#8
Thanks for all the input. I just ordered some Ford Racing C-springs, so that's less than an inch drop, so I will hold off on the C/C plates for now and see what the alignment shop says. Thanks again for the info, and I am going to read through that suspension guide thoroughly.
#9
I just took my car in for an alignment yesterday. Not sure how much I lowered the car but I wasnt able to adjust the camber enough to put the passenger side into the "green". I barely got the driver side into spec. *****I HAVE C/C PLATES INSTALLED*****
my car sits now with the camber at -1.2* DS -1.8* PS. "green" zone starts at -1.3*.
So now I need to take the plates off and lengthen the stock camber slots about 1/4" so my camber will be within spec.
my car sits now with the camber at -1.2* DS -1.8* PS. "green" zone starts at -1.3*.
So now I need to take the plates off and lengthen the stock camber slots about 1/4" so my camber will be within spec.
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