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Old 12-20-2009, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt
I think your still missing the point. You guys are argueing two different things. I believe you ran with a pullied cobra. A cobra with a poor driver! I've beat Z06 Corvettes at the track but that doesn't mean my car has the ***** to keep up with one if you put an execellent driver behind the wheel of the Vette. This is the same case here. Your car simply doesn't make the power to run with a car thats making 400+ at the wheels. I seriouslly doubt throwing a couple of cams in a S197 will give you 400HP at the crank. A few of the guys in this section have been racing a long time and know what they are talking about. Trust me, I've been racing since 1985. I know where they are coming from.

Well said BB. Although, a bolt on 3v with cams should be right at 400hp.
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Old 12-20-2009, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 83gtragtop
Well said BB. Although, a bolt on 3v with cams should be right at 400hp.
i dont believe it. more like 350rwhp at the MOST IMO. I forgot a lot about S197s since i sold mine a long time ago but i know for fact, they dont gain that much power with those kind of mods. we had a guy who had a built motor 3v, he upgraded everything you could think of and put down 370rwhp and 370rwtq with slightly higher compression rate that the factory.

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Old 12-20-2009, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by doodad
i dont believe it. more like 350rwhp at the MOST IMO. I forgot a lot about S197s since i sold mine a long time ago but i know for fact, they dont gain that much power with those kind of mods. we had a guy who had a built motor 3v, he upgraded everything you could think of and put down 370rwhp and 370rwtq with slightly higher compression rate that the factory.
You're exactly right. We were talking about crank horsepower not rear wheel horsepower.
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Old 12-20-2009, 06:23 PM
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343 sae on the dyno last time maybe 355 sae know its all good its just i got called out he lost yes i know he was pulling back... we will run again with vids and if i lose o well its still fun... don't get so caught up into dyno numbers as i have seen many cars lose to cars that make alot less power....

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Old 12-20-2009, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bolton3valve
343 sae on the dyno last time maybe 355 sae know its all good its just i got called out he lost yes i know he was pulling back... we will run again with vids and if i lose o well its still fun... don't get so caught up into dyno numbers as i have seen many cars lose to cars that make alot less power....
thats right, dyno numbers means nothing, my heavier cobra with less power walked on a lot of cars. Gotta love that insane power band
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:53 PM
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Weight, gearing, suspension, ETs, and powerband > Peak Dyno Numbers.

Cobra has one sick *** powerband though. Makes them a tough competitor.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Stone629
Weight, gearing, suspension, ETs, and powerband > Peak Dyno Numbers.

Cobra has one sick *** powerband though. Makes them a tough competitor.
Exactly, that is what I have been trying to say.

My Cobra has the suspension completely set-up, the cooling, great power for my mods, and the power-band.

Same with my GT now, suspension, weight, good solid power-band, and soon-to-be gearing, and meth.

That is why both types of cars are tough competitors.

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Originally Posted by Grabber
Exactly, that is what I have been trying to say.

My Cobra has the suspension completely set-up, the cooling, great power for my mods, and the power-band.

Same with my GT now, suspension, weight, good solid power-band, and soon-to-be gearing, and meth.

That is why both types of cars are tough competitors.

Glad you are Back Erdal! Been a long time man!
Your car without a doubt one of the sexiest cobras i have ever driven and seen. that thing rode a lot better that my cobra. turns smooth and like stuck to the ground!

Thanks bro, I will stick around like the good ol days and have fun.
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