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Here is a friends Challenger Dyno Video.. He has an Auto 2010.... He is a carshow guy, Not a Track Rat...... No times, Probably wont get any from him... This car just has a cai and mufflers... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_nfpYEolUw
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Best 1/4 mi 11.245 @ 122.26 (Redlining at 1k ft mark) Took out the 4.10's, installed some 3.55's. New times soon..
Best 1/8 mile: 7.1xx @ 99.xx mph
I'm not a suspension guy but I'll try and find the spec changes for the new chally. I drove a 10 srt back to back to an 11 srt and it performs like a completely different car. Is it the realm of the handling of a mustang? No. Just go read any review of the 11 srt and pretty much every one makes a comment on how significant of a change there is.
If theres one thing anyone learns about chrysler this year is that everything is getting turned around. Every major complaint about our vehicles is being fixed as much as possible with certain factors that can't be changed at the time. You aren't going to get a brand new platform for the challenger to ride on in a year, thats a multi billion dollar investment and takes 3-4 years of development.
I apologize for the previous comment, I was a bit drunk and submitting from my phone. Is there a better way to correct people that assume they are right about things they don't know anything about?
Since when is vehicle R&D a multi billion dollar investment? Try multi million, or maybe a few hundred million in extreme cases. Even Formula 1 development is several hundred million, and that's the most expensive vehicle R&D program on Earth.
Who cares how much horsepower it has, all that matters is how fast it goes!
Untested 331, lots of suspension, chewing up corners.
I'm talking platform not a single vehicle. Platforms are used for 10-15 years being the underpinnings for multiple vehicles. For instance the ford d3 platform was originally a volvo platform back from 99 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_D3_platform.
Currently under the fiat partnership there is no E-segment platform to replace the LX, other than a masserati frame which would be too expensive for a large consumer vehicle. If one existed then yes its a million dollar design project to design a new car on an existing platform.
What do you want proof of? That there isn't a lightweight rwd platform to be used for a new challenger? The LX platform came from mercedes. Building a sports car on a luxury frame doesn't produce the best results, just look at the camaro on the zeta platform.
So I am not allowed to make a un cited claim but 67 is? I will try to find something that explains cost of platform development, but it is near or in the billion dollar range. A single vehicle development is a multi million dollar investment, and its why you don't see major changes until about 5-6 years after the previous release. A platform lasts even longer because it is even more costly. If it were only millions they would change a lot more often to be more competitive.
You've never got over EPA in any vehicle you've ever driven?
99gtvert also linked to a review that explicitly discusses the new suspension and how much better it is compared to the 2010.
i've gotten over epa by going down hill or using a stupid dashboard calculator for a trip where im just holding it at 60mph. especially with a tail wind.. I think most people (and you are probably in that group) can't figure out their gas mileage because they don't know how to figure out how many gallons exactly they used for however many miles. and short trips can have completely different results vs using a full tank. in my mustang i've gotten up to 32mpg and as bad as 12mpg.. but 20 is more consistent.
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