Tuners vs. Warranty
#1
Tuners vs. Warranty
I do not have any performance based mods on my car right now, just appearance and electronics stuff.
I was thinking about buying the DiabloSport Predator tuner for my car and just running the 87 octane tune. I also plan to put wider/lower profile rubber on the car and would like to be able to adjust the speedometer myself.
That said, will flashing a new tune void the warranty? Will I need to reset it to stock before taking it to the dealer for any work? If I do reset to factory, won't it be obvious that the PCM has been reset?
Any input would be much appreciated
I was thinking about buying the DiabloSport Predator tuner for my car and just running the 87 octane tune. I also plan to put wider/lower profile rubber on the car and would like to be able to adjust the speedometer myself.
That said, will flashing a new tune void the warranty? Will I need to reset it to stock before taking it to the dealer for any work? If I do reset to factory, won't it be obvious that the PCM has been reset?
Any input would be much appreciated
#5
RE: Tuners vs. Warranty
Actually, I got BURNED first, then BLOWN off.
But it really is how a four stroke, and even jet engines work.
But honestly, I'd be happy to give you her phone number[:'(]
I have rever gone to a class reunion, but I gotta go this time (just to laught at the jerks I never really did lik!)
But it really is how a four stroke, and even jet engines work.
But honestly, I'd be happy to give you her phone number[:'(]
I have rever gone to a class reunion, but I gotta go this time (just to laught at the jerks I never really did lik!)
#6
RE: Tuners vs. Warranty
if you need warrenty work, just flip the tune back to stock, and by federal law, the after market part must be the cause of the warrenty issue in order to void the warrenty, so you flash the computer, and the skipper 500 still doesnt work, even with the tune, the warrenty is still vaid, by federal law
#7
RE: Tuners vs. Warranty
C'mon,......... be realistic here. FORD has built the "Best Mustang ever", as per ROAD and TRACK, it's been called the "most powerful stock Mustang ever" by Motor Trend. Ford engineering has done their job.
Yet, when ppl decide that's not good enough, and want to add their own personal goodies, they expect FORD to take care of it when something fails. If you choose to "modify" your car, you are basically saying, I'm smarter, I know more, and Ford Engineering knows "nothing", so I'll do whatever I want.
Remember, this car was built to impress and gain popularity with 97% of the "sports car enthusiast". The remaining 3% that feels the Mustang needs to be faster, better, louder, and more HP...... Do so at their own peril. Read your warranty, don't quote federal law, and cry, when they say "you changed factory specs, so we won't cover it"
Go to a fine steak house........ the menu says "not responsible for well done steaks"
Buy an appliance...it says "warranty is void if used for commercial / rental purposes"
Is it your Dr's fault if you over eat, drink, and smoke when he tells you not to ? and you still die ?
If you got the $$ for the add ons, you can afford (no pun intended) to pay for the havoc they create. 300hp and 320#torque is God's plenty while under warranty, as you are driving the "best high performance sport coupe on the planet, for the money", 2nd to NONE!
I'm ready for replys, and if y'all wanna "toss" me from the forum. I'll gladly leave. (probably not easily)
Yet, when ppl decide that's not good enough, and want to add their own personal goodies, they expect FORD to take care of it when something fails. If you choose to "modify" your car, you are basically saying, I'm smarter, I know more, and Ford Engineering knows "nothing", so I'll do whatever I want.
Remember, this car was built to impress and gain popularity with 97% of the "sports car enthusiast". The remaining 3% that feels the Mustang needs to be faster, better, louder, and more HP...... Do so at their own peril. Read your warranty, don't quote federal law, and cry, when they say "you changed factory specs, so we won't cover it"
Go to a fine steak house........ the menu says "not responsible for well done steaks"
Buy an appliance...it says "warranty is void if used for commercial / rental purposes"
Is it your Dr's fault if you over eat, drink, and smoke when he tells you not to ? and you still die ?
If you got the $$ for the add ons, you can afford (no pun intended) to pay for the havoc they create. 300hp and 320#torque is God's plenty while under warranty, as you are driving the "best high performance sport coupe on the planet, for the money", 2nd to NONE!
I'm ready for replys, and if y'all wanna "toss" me from the forum. I'll gladly leave. (probably not easily)
#8
RE: Tuners vs. Warranty
lejay, i totally understand your POV as i believe most of us do. i think the point of the voided wrrenty being made is if you put a cai on and your alt goes bad is the alt still under warrenty. some dealers will try to get out of this. similarly 2k05gt's alt went bad with every indication that it was a manufacturers defect (tsb's, error codes, et cetera youve read the thread). but because he has (well, had) the udp's the dealer and ford were trying to deny him of the warrenty without PROOF that the udp's did the damage, just the dealers word.
i think most people that mod their cars understand that it could cause problems. ie a blower has a good chance of blowing out your stock bottom end. never the less it still doesnt not void your warrenty and f your alt, water pump, or a/c compressor goes bad its highly unlikely that the s/c was the cause even though they are physically attatched via the acc belt.
you dig?
Ty
i think most people that mod their cars understand that it could cause problems. ie a blower has a good chance of blowing out your stock bottom end. never the less it still doesnt not void your warrenty and f your alt, water pump, or a/c compressor goes bad its highly unlikely that the s/c was the cause even though they are physically attatched via the acc belt.
you dig?
Ty
#9
RE: Tuners vs. Warranty
ORIGINAL: razol
I do not have any performance based mods on my car right now, just appearance and electronics stuff.
I was thinking about buying the DiabloSport Predator tuner for my car and just running the 87 octane tune. I also plan to put wider/lower profile rubber on the car and would like to be able to adjust the speedometer myself.
That said, will flashing a new tune void the warranty? Will I need to reset it to stock before taking it to the dealer for any work? If I do reset to factory, won't it be obvious that the PCM has been reset?
Any input would be much appreciated
I do not have any performance based mods on my car right now, just appearance and electronics stuff.
I was thinking about buying the DiabloSport Predator tuner for my car and just running the 87 octane tune. I also plan to put wider/lower profile rubber on the car and would like to be able to adjust the speedometer myself.
That said, will flashing a new tune void the warranty? Will I need to reset it to stock before taking it to the dealer for any work? If I do reset to factory, won't it be obvious that the PCM has been reset?
Any input would be much appreciated
I recently started doing mods to my car. A couple of weeks after my Vortech was installed, my engine failed. One head actually ran out of oil and everything burned up in there. All my mods where done at a Ford dealer. A couple of weeks later (3100$) I went back to pick up the car. The head failed again after 2 minutes. I never left the dealer.
It turns out the cheap “ford” oil filter they put on fell apart and one piece block an oil passage that goes to that head.
Of course Ford is denying warranty…. I agree if you can’t pay, don’t play but there is limit to what an installer can get away with.
I’m probably going to take the dealer to small claims court. I would bet money they will have to pay up.
It’s all about why it fails….
#10
RE: Tuners vs. Warranty
Gotcha TY,
It seems rediculous if they say a CAI ruined the alternator, or some other goofy thing like that. This sure ain't the good 'ol days when guys "souped up" their engines.
But, no one can say for sure that even subtle changes don't affect other parts with the sophisticated computors that constantly monitor, and adjust the engine. Maybe some of these aftermarket items do affect factory parts. The whole system was built to Ford's specs and computor.
If they tell you not to do it, and you do, well..... that just puts them in control with an easy out.
Great point.
TY
It seems rediculous if they say a CAI ruined the alternator, or some other goofy thing like that. This sure ain't the good 'ol days when guys "souped up" their engines.
But, no one can say for sure that even subtle changes don't affect other parts with the sophisticated computors that constantly monitor, and adjust the engine. Maybe some of these aftermarket items do affect factory parts. The whole system was built to Ford's specs and computor.
If they tell you not to do it, and you do, well..... that just puts them in control with an easy out.
Great point.
TY