bl1nk

I see your point of the pattern but still, EVERY car has ALWAYS dropped alot from concept to production, you cant deny it. Go back and look at any car and the concepts always have tons more hp than the production car. Fact is the concept cars are nice and all but theyre simply too expensive for production so they cut the engine. If they dont cut the engine on the Camaro theres no way it will be in the Mustang price range, especially with the same engine as the vette... theres no doubt about that.

And about Ford coming out with a Boss or Mach 1... what good would that do us? Lol.. we already bought our GT's...

2005MustangGtGuy

I was reading in motor trend that the camaro weights over 4000 pounds as built and they were trying to reduce weight on the car. I guess a lot can happen before the car is released in a few years though

GT06GT

well, the only thing i dont mind being beaten by is an 06 vette or better so im gonna S/C it within the next 2 years I finally got my excuse to S/C it

Oh and for all of you following Imports, I forgot to add the new Skyline GT-R comin to america in spring of 2008. 450 HP AWD and sexy looks to back it up, thank god around 75K or those imports would be rockin us all day long

ThisBlood147

All I know is that all the info I'm lookin at right now points to the LS2 Camaro and 6.1 Challenger being heavier and more expensive than the Mustang is right now. The Challenger is supposedly being built on the same platform as the Charger and Chrysler 300, so I'm guessing that 425hp will be pulling the same duty that the current SRT8's are dealing with. And supposedly the new Camaro will feature IRS.......another weight adding feature that will play havoc with anyone who wants to consistantly put down those 400 ponies at the track. And sorry, but there's no way a 400hp LS2 powered car is gonna price in the same MSRP range as the current Mustang GT.

But, if Ford wants the Mustang to compete in this soon to come war.....the mustang will have to be given some added kick under the hood. If the GT500 stays a limited production car, then something in the 30-33K range that falls in between the GT's 300hp and GT500's 500hp needs to be added to the mustang line.......be it a new Mach 1, Boss, or some totally new badge. If this happens, then we could well see a properly matched up second musclecar war.

bl1nk

Like I mentioned above though, what good would this do us? We have already bought our GT's...

deezelnut

except the economy is not as bad as most people belive

ThisBlood147

lol Just speaking from a manufacturer's view of the upcoming musclecar wars. But I gotta tell ya.........if a sweet enough new Boss or Mach 1 surfaces for 08 or 09, I'm gonna have a hard time convincing myself not to trade in my 05[:-]
Make a new Boss with an aluminum block 5.4 pushing out 385-400hp NA......with some decent exterior trim changes from the current GT's.......and that whole decision will become academic for me.

SPOOK R/T

Ma Mopar has a 6.4 - 392 cid Hemi rated at 510 hp that is slated to go into the Challenger SRT 8.

ThisBlood147

If that's true, it will keep the GT500 company ET-wise.[8D]

Tres Wright

It is far too easy for these other manufacturers to talk about how their new hot rod is going to tromp all over the Mustang. Because their hot rods don't exist yet! They can talk about big motors, excellent handling, light weight, hell might as well throw insane gas mileage into the mix as well. I remember the Dodge Daytona was going to be a Mustang killer, but when it finally came out it was a lot heavier and a lot slower than advertised. It's certainly not a bad car, but it's far from a Mustang killer. The SRT8 is better competition; but it's heavy, uses premium only and gets horrible mileage.

The Challenger is supposed to be build on the 500/ Charger chassis. I saw it at the Dallas Auto Show and it is BIG! Don't get too worried about it just yet, it's probably going to have the same motor lineup as the Charger and will probably weigh about the same. Sure they'll no doubt put the SRT8 motor in some version of the Challenger, but if it's as heavy as the Charger it will barely hang with a Mustang even with the big motor in it.

With all the hot vette motors available, the Camaro could be a serious contender. But still there are only rumors about the Camaro going into production, GM is so cash-strapped right now that they're going to have a rough time investing in all the new tooling the Camaro will require.

I would love to see the musclecar wars heat back up again. But I don't see it happening. The Mustang is in its 3rd year of production and there has been no response from the other manufacturers other than a couple of show cars. Pathetic.