stage 1,2,3,4,5
08-01-2006, 03:43 PM
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RE: stage 1,2,3,4,5
When some one says Stage x it always sounds like some ricer crap to me. Typically the higher the stage the more power it is supposed to make, but it would help to know what you are specifically refering to.
08-01-2006, 05:27 PM
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RE: stage 1,2,3,4,5
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A Stage 3 means your car has been upgraded with a third more horsepower than OEM.If your car had 300HP from the factory and it was modified to be about 400 HP.then it's a Stage 3.
A Stage 3 means your car has been upgraded with a third more horsepower than OEM.If your car had 300HP from the factory and it was modified to be about 400 HP.then it's a Stage 3.
Stage 1 = 1/1 which is 100% so double the hp?
Stage 2 = 1/2 or 50% more?
Stage 3 = 1/3 or 33% more based on what you are saying
Stage 4 = 1/4 or 25% more?
Stage 5 = 1/5 or 20% more?
This makes absolutely no sense. I still think stages mean very little. A Stage 1 Roush has a body kit a Stage 2 adds the suspension and maybe a few hp by way of UDPs so stages don't necessarily have anything to do with HP.
08-01-2006, 06:06 PM
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RE: stage 1,2,3,4,5
The "stage numbers" are all marketing terminology for mods (especially sets/packages of mods) from years ago, and even then mainly in the "euro tuner" circles (Porsche, Lotus, Lancia, etc).
Back then, a "stage 1" car had a certain set of mods done to it. If you then took the "stage 1 car" and added some further set of mods, then you had a "stage 2" and so on up the line. For example, a stage 1 car might have new shocks and bigger carbs. A stage two would have those mods, plus a new sway bar and exhaust. Stage 3 would take that, add a camshaft, new intake, and bigger brakes.....etc.
The higher the "stage" number, the faster/better the car was (theoretically).
The numbers do not correspond to anything concrete in real life, such as boost pressure or ETs or lap times or anything like that. It's just marketing. So a "Stage 2" supercharger is theoretically "better" than a "stage 1".
Back then, a "stage 1" car had a certain set of mods done to it. If you then took the "stage 1 car" and added some further set of mods, then you had a "stage 2" and so on up the line. For example, a stage 1 car might have new shocks and bigger carbs. A stage two would have those mods, plus a new sway bar and exhaust. Stage 3 would take that, add a camshaft, new intake, and bigger brakes.....etc.
The higher the "stage" number, the faster/better the car was (theoretically).
The numbers do not correspond to anything concrete in real life, such as boost pressure or ETs or lap times or anything like that. It's just marketing. So a "Stage 2" supercharger is theoretically "better" than a "stage 1".
08-01-2006, 06:09 PM
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RE: stage 1,2,3,4,5
IMO, this is where the "Stage X Turbo" came in.
In video games like Need for Speed and such part of the game is about upgrading your components. They had to simplify the "stages" to make the game more interesting and straightforward, so when you went to buy your turbo kits, you were able to buy them in Stages, based on how much $$$ you wanted to spend.
Unfortunatly, this doesn't translate to the "real world" very well. I expect that if you go into your local garage and say you want a Stage 4 turbo installed they will think you are nuts.
In video games like Need for Speed and such part of the game is about upgrading your components. They had to simplify the "stages" to make the game more interesting and straightforward, so when you went to buy your turbo kits, you were able to buy them in Stages, based on how much $$$ you wanted to spend.
Unfortunatly, this doesn't translate to the "real world" very well. I expect that if you go into your local garage and say you want a Stage 4 turbo installed they will think you are nuts.
08-01-2006, 06:12 PM
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RE: stage 1,2,3,4,5
Stage 1 means that the body kit only has been installed.I am referring to the Roush hierarchy...Not double the horsepower.Stage 4 would be more horsepower than stage 3.So what you have understood is essentially backward.Sorry that is my fault.Stage 4 is not meant for street use(racing).Up to Stage 3 is streetlegal.I am not going to state what Stage 2 is because I am not 100 percent sure.To hazard a guess Stage 2 on a OEM 300horse power car would be approx. 350 horsepower.(achieved through bolt on Mods).I also believe it has modifications to the suspension(but I can't be specific).Stage 3 would also include some handling improvements.Stage 4 would have heavier modifications.
When you are looking to by car parts in general(for example,a clutch),you will come across many manufacturers who use this system.A Stage 3 clutch would be a match for a car putting out 350 to 400horsepower.A weaker clutch would be unsuitable ,it would wear quicker and may not grab suitably.
When you are looking to by car parts in general(for example,a clutch),you will come across many manufacturers who use this system.A Stage 3 clutch would be a match for a car putting out 350 to 400horsepower.A weaker clutch would be unsuitable ,it would wear quicker and may not grab suitably.
08-01-2006, 07:21 PM
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RE: stage 1,2,3,4,5
ORIGINAL: xzo6
Stage 1 means that the body kit only has been installed.I am referring to the Roush hierarchy...Not double the horsepower.Stage 4 would be more horsepower than stage 3.So what you have understood is essentially backward.Sorry that is my fault.Stage 4 is not meant for street use(racing).Up to Stage 3 is streetlegal.I am not going to state what Stage 2 is because I am not 100 percent sure.To hazard a guess Stage 2 on a OEM 300horse power car would be approx. 350 horsepower.(achieved through bolt on Mods).I also believe it has modifications to the suspension(but I can't be specific).Stage 3 would also include some handling improvements.Stage 4 would have heavier modifications.
When you are looking to by car parts in general(for example,a clutch),you will come across many manufacturers who use this system.A Stage 3 clutch would be a match for a car putting out 350 to 400horsepower.A weaker clutch would be unsuitable ,it would wear quicker and may not grab suitably.
Stage 1 means that the body kit only has been installed.I am referring to the Roush hierarchy...Not double the horsepower.Stage 4 would be more horsepower than stage 3.So what you have understood is essentially backward.Sorry that is my fault.Stage 4 is not meant for street use(racing).Up to Stage 3 is streetlegal.I am not going to state what Stage 2 is because I am not 100 percent sure.To hazard a guess Stage 2 on a OEM 300horse power car would be approx. 350 horsepower.(achieved through bolt on Mods).I also believe it has modifications to the suspension(but I can't be specific).Stage 3 would also include some handling improvements.Stage 4 would have heavier modifications.
When you are looking to by car parts in general(for example,a clutch),you will come across many manufacturers who use this system.A Stage 3 clutch would be a match for a car putting out 350 to 400horsepower.A weaker clutch would be unsuitable ,it would wear quicker and may not grab suitably.