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Old 12-13-2006, 05:15 PM
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Which is better? Cheers!
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:04 PM
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I dont' know a lot about engines but here is some info for you:

"The Modular engine, or "mod motor" as it is often referred to, is Ford Motor Company's modern overhead camshaft (OHC) V8 and V10 engine family. It gradually replaced the Windsor small-block and 385 big-block engines over several years in the mid-1990s. Contrary to popular belief, the Modular engine did not get its name from its design or sharing of certain parts among the engine family. Instead, the name was derived from a manufacturing plant protocol, "Modular", where the plant and its tooling could be changed out in a matter of hours to manufacture different versions of the engine family. [1]. It is used in Ford trucks, (called the Triton) in Lincolns (called Intech) and in Ford and Mercury cars. In 2004 Ford introduced a 3-valve SOHC with a Variable Camshaft Timing (VCT) system, and this engine will eventually phase out the 2-valve SOHC, although it has temporarily replaced a 4-valve DOHC engine in the Lincoln Navigator.

The engines were first produced in Romeo, Michigan but additional capacity was added in Windsor, Ontario."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Modular_engine

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"A pushrod engine or I-head engine is a type of piston engine that places the camshaft in the cylinder block (usually beside and slightly above the crankshaft in a straight engine or directly above the crankshaft in the V of a V engine) and uses pushrods or rods to actuate rocker arms above the cylinder head to actuate the valves. Lifters or tappets reside in the engine block between the camshaft and pushrods.

This contrasts with an overhead cam (OHC) design which places the camshafts above the cylinder head and drives the valves directly or through short rocker arms. In an OHC engine, the camshafts are normally part of the cylinder head assembly, while in an I-head engine the camshaft (rarely more than one) is part of the main engine block assembly.

Pushrod engines are perceived to be "old fashioned" by the modern automotive press, the cause is historical: While both layouts are over 100 years old, the I-head engine came first. OHC engines were developed as more expensive high-performance engines and have largely replaced the pushrod design in countries where cars are taxed based on engine displacement. In 1949, Oldsmobile introduced the Rocket V8. It was the first high-compression I-head design, and is the archetype for most modern pushrod engines. Currently General Motors is the world's largest pushrod engine producer with engines such as the 3800 Series III Supercharged V6 (260 hp, 280 lb/ft torque), LS7 Corvette 7.0L V8 Engine (505 hp, 475 lb/ft torque) and LS4 5.3L DOD V8 (303 hp, 323 ft·lbf torque). Currently few pushrod type engines remain in production, a result of the fact that in it has become difficult to achieve competitive engine performance with the configuration."

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Old 12-13-2006, 06:11 PM
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Nice explanation. Cleared up a lot of MY questions. Thanks!
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:20 PM
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Thanks Tim!

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Old 12-13-2006, 10:52 PM
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My pleasure guys...

Found another really good article:

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/040421.htm

Pushrods vs overhead cams - which is better?
by Jim Kerr

There have been many engine designs over the years, from K-Cycle to Rotary, but two designs have endured; pushrod engines and overhead camshaft engines. There are advantages and disadvantages of both designs, so which is better? Let's take a look and you can decide.

Pushrod engines are the simplest design. A camshaft in the engine block moves the lifters, which transfer the movement to the pushrods. Pushrods are slim metal tubes with rounded ends that pass through holes in the cylinder block and head and move the rocker arms. The rocker arms are like a teeter-totter, changing the direction of movement and pushing down on the valves and valve springs. When the camshaft rotates, the lifter and all the connecting parts move up and down, opening and closing the valves. It sounds like there is a lot going on, and this is supposed to be simple! It is when compared to overhead camshaft designs.

Overhead camshaft engines use one or two camshafts per cylinder head. If one camshaft is used, it is often referred to as a SOHC or single overhead camshaft engine. DOHC of double overhead camshaft engines allow the designer to vary camshaft timing for the intake and exhaust valves separately because one camshaft operates the intake valves while the other operates the exhaust valves.


Some overhead camshafts push directly on a "bucket" (an inverted cup) that in turn pushes the valve open. Other designs have the camshaft move a rocker arm that then pushes on the valve. This type of rocker arm doesn't change the direction of movement but because of its leverage, it does increase the movement at the valve end. There are even overhead camshaft engines that use pushrods too, but these pushrods are very short and don't pass through the engine block or cylinder head casting.

The complexity of overhead camshaft engines comes in the drive mechanism used to turn the camshafts. While pushrod engines can use gears or short chains because the camshaft is close to the crankshaft, overhead camshaft engines typically use long roller chains for each bank or a single toothed timing belt. These long drive systems may require hydraulic tensioners, guide plates, idler pulleys and complex covers to complete the drive system. Because all this drive system must be disconnected before a cylinder head can be removed, they are also much more complex when performing major engine work.


Timing belts used to be the most common drive mechanism but roller timing chains are gaining favour again. Roller chains last longer, are contained inside sealed covers so they are quieter and they are narrower than a timing belt. A narrower camshaft drive enables engineers to make the engine shorter so it will fit in tighter engine compartments.

So it would seem the pushrod engine wins because it is simpler, but there are drawbacks. The more an engine "breathes" (gets air in and exhaust out) the more power it can develop. Cylinder head ports or passages on pushrod engines are always a compromise because the ports have to be placed to allow room for pushrods to pass though the head. Airflow may not be optimum.


There are also more parts to move when the valve opens. The weight of pushrods, rocker arms and lifters has inertia at higher rpms so they may start to bounce and the valves "float". Valve float is when the valves don't close properly and the engine misfires. Engine power drops immediately and a piston may hit a valve, bending it. Severe engine damage could occur. Redlines on vehicle tachometers are there to help prevent valve float.

Overhead camshaft engines have fewer and lighter valvetrain components to move. This allows the engine to have a higher redline before valve float occurs. The faster an engine turns, the more power it can develop in a given time. Another advantage is that cylinder head passages can be placed for the best airflow. Holes for the pushrods are not required, although oil drainback holes will be cast in places where they don't interfere with airflow.

Overhead camshaft engines can produce higher performance but typically cost more to build. Pushrod engines are cheaper to build and work on. Many engines use overhead camshaft designs because the optimum cylinder head design allows for increased fuel economy and performance too. Most high performance vehicles are using overhead camshaft designs but then Corvette comes along again with their pushrod V8. Thirty-five miles per gallon and four hundred horsepower out of a pushrod engine show they can't be that bad!


Jim Kerr is a master automotive mechanic and teaches automotive technology. He has been writing automotive articles for fifteen years for newspapers and magazines in Canada and the United States, and is a member of the Automotive Journalist's Association of Canada (AJAC).

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Default RE: Can someone explain the difference between a MODULAR motor & a PUSH-ROD motor?

Thanks Tim ....oh and my bro works at the Romeo engine plant!
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i love my 05 gt but my 5.0 pushrod just sounds soooo much better.. flowmaster+pushrod= happiness
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