KB 2.6 IC Installed
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I was considering this same kit until I saw where the intake runs and I got scared. I have not read too many threads on this kit or even if people are having issues with it sucking water into the engine. The location itself looks poor, by design. Even if its just moisture evaporating from a road (you know those hot @ss Florida days when it rains out of nowhere and then it all evaporates right in front of you) would be a bad thing, right?
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ORIGINAL: Snkypete
Wow you can curse. I should be scared. Now that you've readily admitted you're not a tuner, you cannot state facts regarding the matter- you don't know how to tune other than it "requires a lot of THINGS" (great technical word there BTW). And you were being an ***..."And I am telling you " Who are you? No one. Some keyboard commando who has NEVER tuned a vehicle...so who are you to tell anyone anything? You have NO business commenting on what will/will not cause an engine failure as you clearly are not educated on the subject. A horsepower number alone doesn't always equate to a blown engine...there are plenty of other factors that play a significant role - INCLUDING THE TUNE, driving conditions and your favorite word..."things". Powdered rods can let go with 350rwhp....they can survive with 500rwhp. I can provide examples of both...not opinions.
Sorry, wrong ASSumption. I didn't tune Brendon's car. Nice try though.
Ahh yes, the glorious "it's the Internet so I'm entitled to my opinion" defense....sorry, no one cares about your opinion, especially me. I deal with facts alone. People talk out of their *** all day long - on that you are correct. So you want to be like the masses and pass along misinformation that you read somewhere else? Have fun with that. How silly of me to actually KNOW something about what I am talking about and base my comments on facts rather than guessing or something I "read".
How do you tunn a car? Exactly - most of you have not so most of you shouldn't comment on it...especially when you cannot even spell it.
As for the DynoJet reference - that is what I was referring to. They suck, they can be tuned around, but they in no way reflect "real world" conditions...they are static, anything that is static and cannot compensate is not accurate. Fact, not opinion. Wow, more cursing...who got to whom? But I'm getting a good laugh here.
Wow, you were promoted to head fry chef. Congrats. You're not the only one who makes a good living. I do quite fine myself. If you want to have an Internet battle of e-**** toys, I have more than my fair share. No one really cares if you paid by cash, check, credit card or through selling yourself at a bus terminal. How about you write a check to hooked on phonics so you can get some education and learn how to spell words like togEther? The world would be a better place - hell, it might even almost make your opinion worth something. Almost.
So while you continue you temper tantrum cursing because you cannot make an intelligent reply because (as you so helpfully admitted) you know nothing about tuning and were talking out of your *** - the rest of the people can congratulate Brendon for having a beautiful car that is now faster than it was a few days ago and will get even faster when the peer pressure we envoke on him makes him upgrade his internals and swap on a larger pulley.
ORIGINAL: 06SaLeEn
First off I am not a internet tuner, matter a fact I am not a tuner at all D**K. I wasnt an ***, I was stating facts based off of what I know. not from the internet but from speaking with and being around a dyno sho/mod shop etc.
I could sit here and argue with you but I wont. you must feel offended by my comments since your doing the work D**K.
First off I am not a internet tuner, matter a fact I am not a tuner at all D**K. I wasnt an ***, I was stating facts based off of what I know. not from the internet but from speaking with and being around a dyno sho/mod shop etc.
I could sit here and argue with you but I wont. you must feel offended by my comments since your doing the work D**K.
Sorry, wrong ASSumption. I didn't tune Brendon's car. Nice try though.
ORIGINAL: 06SaLeEn
Tunning car requires alot of different things and i am sure you know what your doing and I am sure you dont want anyone telling him something different than you are, or you would not make money. But this is open forum and if you got upset with otherpeople's opinion everytime they disagree or what not you woudl be here all day.
Tunning car requires alot of different things and i am sure you know what your doing and I am sure you dont want anyone telling him something different than you are, or you would not make money. But this is open forum and if you got upset with otherpeople's opinion everytime they disagree or what not you woudl be here all day.
ORIGINAL: 06SaLeEn
No I have never tunned a car. But most of us have not. But in my opinion I am not a fan of a dyno jet, yes I do know the difference between a dyno jet and mustang dyno or land and sea etc...Yes I know you can have a dyno read whatever you want, in fact thats an issue with alot of tunner's at shops they give BS numbers to make the customer happy, pass along word of mouth and the end of the day make more money. Now D**K, I can call you D**K since your post was totally D**K.
No I have never tunned a car. But most of us have not. But in my opinion I am not a fan of a dyno jet, yes I do know the difference between a dyno jet and mustang dyno or land and sea etc...Yes I know you can have a dyno read whatever you want, in fact thats an issue with alot of tunner's at shops they give BS numbers to make the customer happy, pass along word of mouth and the end of the day make more money. Now D**K, I can call you D**K since your post was totally D**K.
As for the DynoJet reference - that is what I was referring to. They suck, they can be tuned around, but they in no way reflect "real world" conditions...they are static, anything that is static and cannot compensate is not accurate. Fact, not opinion. Wow, more cursing...who got to whom? But I'm getting a good laugh here.
ORIGINAL: 06SaLeEn
I am sure Brendons car is in good hands, and I am sure he did a great job putting it togather, in fact Good for him, I wish I had the knowledge to do something like that. But I am sure there are things I do that he can't etc...
By the way D**K I didn't wip out my Credit card, I work very hard and make really good living. I actually wip out my check book/cash D**K and paid for my ****. So have a great day and take a F***ing chill pill D**K
I am sure Brendons car is in good hands, and I am sure he did a great job putting it togather, in fact Good for him, I wish I had the knowledge to do something like that. But I am sure there are things I do that he can't etc...
By the way D**K I didn't wip out my Credit card, I work very hard and make really good living. I actually wip out my check book/cash D**K and paid for my ****. So have a great day and take a F***ing chill pill D**K
So while you continue you temper tantrum cursing because you cannot make an intelligent reply because (as you so helpfully admitted) you know nothing about tuning and were talking out of your *** - the rest of the people can congratulate Brendon for having a beautiful car that is now faster than it was a few days ago and will get even faster when the peer pressure we envoke on him makes him upgrade his internals and swap on a larger pulley.
I think missed the whole point. But whatever, Your right there is more to blowing engines than HP. I know that. But each there own. Good luck brendon with everything, I hope your car makes it. I am sorry I have an opinion. I thought this was the whole point of this forum. I am not going to back and forth with you. Hopefully one day are paths will cross and you can let me know face to face how big of an idiot I am.
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as for my missed spelled words. I was in a hurry and I should use spell check. lol, again I get blasted for making a mistake.
I tell you what why dont you shoot me an email maybe we can talk I would love to learn more from some has all knowing as you.
Please explain to me one thing without being an *******, Why did you blast me when I all I said is I would upgrade the internals at some point. This conversation has been stated many times before on here with out anyone blasting another. I am just wondering? Why me? If you looked through out this formun, people have stated the samething as me, when it comes to upgradeing internals.
I tell you what why dont you shoot me an email maybe we can talk I would love to learn more from some has all knowing as you.
Please explain to me one thing without being an *******, Why did you blast me when I all I said is I would upgrade the internals at some point. This conversation has been stated many times before on here with out anyone blasting another. I am just wondering? Why me? If you looked through out this formun, people have stated the samething as me, when it comes to upgradeing internals.
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See, that's the problem... (paraphrasing) "I thought the whole point of the forum was to have an opinion". Wrong.
No one cares about anyone's opinion...mine, yours, Brendon's anyone. People come on boards and spew opinions based upon absolutely nothing other than they heard something somewhere or read something -not based upon FACTS. They perpetuate the BS and some poor soul reads it and says 'wow, this guy has more posts than me, he must know what he's talking about'.
Why you? Sure I'll be glad to explain it to you :
"And I am telling you that I dont care how good the tune is, a point or another depending on your driving style you will blow with that much hp."
You're telling me? And again, your comment was based upon absolutely nothing. Nevermind the fact that it was simply incorrect. If someone doesn't want their feelings hurt by having someone correct them then they should simply stick to stating facts and talking about things they actually know about....not what they've read. There are powdered rods that blow at 350rwhp; there are powdered rods that have survived 500rwhp - so your opinion seems to be flawed.
Now, I don't claim to know everything - never have, never will. Do I know more than the majority of people out there? Absolutely. I've experienced things first hand, I've built several cars of my own, several more for others. I don't listen to a thing posted on message boards, they are a goof and a way to waste time - nothing more when it comes to tech. I have connections/friends throughout the industry and have access to people and companies that the average person does not. I run the largest Mustang club in the Northeast. And most importantly - if I'm merely stating my worthless opinion, I state it clearly because it is just that, an opinion. When you're talking about something as an absolute - it damn well better be based upon facts. What is so wrong with that?
Obviously Brendon should put funds aside to upgrade his internals if he plans on running the car hard or increasing his level of boost. Again, your comment "...if you looked throughout this forum..." just shows that you're more concerned about people and their opinions rather than hard data. But I didn't say you were wrong for telling him he should be considering upgrading his internals....I mean thanks for stating the sky is blue. An engine can let go for various reasons - the hp level is just one part of a complex puzzle.
You're not an idiot - well I don't know you so I cannot say if you are or not. You speak about things you shouldn't because you don't have any experience with them - and that just makes you an typical message board person and why those who truly know about our hobby/vehicles don't frequent boards.
Brendon asked for help because of some tool following him around the Internet on various boards telling him his engine is going to blow up....nevermind the fact he knows nothing about the tune, nothing about the dyno (or dynos in general obviously)....but he's qualified to speak about the situation because "it's the internet and I'm entitled to my opinion". I seriously have to make that as a shirt.
No one cares about anyone's opinion...mine, yours, Brendon's anyone. People come on boards and spew opinions based upon absolutely nothing other than they heard something somewhere or read something -not based upon FACTS. They perpetuate the BS and some poor soul reads it and says 'wow, this guy has more posts than me, he must know what he's talking about'.
Why you? Sure I'll be glad to explain it to you :
"And I am telling you that I dont care how good the tune is, a point or another depending on your driving style you will blow with that much hp."
You're telling me? And again, your comment was based upon absolutely nothing. Nevermind the fact that it was simply incorrect. If someone doesn't want their feelings hurt by having someone correct them then they should simply stick to stating facts and talking about things they actually know about....not what they've read. There are powdered rods that blow at 350rwhp; there are powdered rods that have survived 500rwhp - so your opinion seems to be flawed.
Now, I don't claim to know everything - never have, never will. Do I know more than the majority of people out there? Absolutely. I've experienced things first hand, I've built several cars of my own, several more for others. I don't listen to a thing posted on message boards, they are a goof and a way to waste time - nothing more when it comes to tech. I have connections/friends throughout the industry and have access to people and companies that the average person does not. I run the largest Mustang club in the Northeast. And most importantly - if I'm merely stating my worthless opinion, I state it clearly because it is just that, an opinion. When you're talking about something as an absolute - it damn well better be based upon facts. What is so wrong with that?
Obviously Brendon should put funds aside to upgrade his internals if he plans on running the car hard or increasing his level of boost. Again, your comment "...if you looked throughout this forum..." just shows that you're more concerned about people and their opinions rather than hard data. But I didn't say you were wrong for telling him he should be considering upgrading his internals....I mean thanks for stating the sky is blue. An engine can let go for various reasons - the hp level is just one part of a complex puzzle.
You're not an idiot - well I don't know you so I cannot say if you are or not. You speak about things you shouldn't because you don't have any experience with them - and that just makes you an typical message board person and why those who truly know about our hobby/vehicles don't frequent boards.
Brendon asked for help because of some tool following him around the Internet on various boards telling him his engine is going to blow up....nevermind the fact he knows nothing about the tune, nothing about the dyno (or dynos in general obviously)....but he's qualified to speak about the situation because "it's the internet and I'm entitled to my opinion". I seriously have to make that as a shirt.
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you two are ruining a good thread with your bullsh!t bickering about nonsense. go start a thread on whinyb!tches.com or something... the point is moot now. so stop high-jacking this guys thread with this back and forth crap. neither of you will win and one of you cant spell - who cares, really?!
people might have learned from your first two posts - but now its a matter of who is more right than the other and/or someone just saving face. so please limit the name calling and stick to the facts (or opinions - its an open forum) and this is how we ALL learn.
people might have learned from your first two posts - but now its a matter of who is more right than the other and/or someone just saving face. so please limit the name calling and stick to the facts (or opinions - its an open forum) and this is how we ALL learn.
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Nothing is being ruined....some people are actually learning from this <gasp what a concept!>.
And unless you're turning the volume down on your radio, it's moot, not mute.
I'm not posting to "win" anything. I know I'm right, whether people want to listen to what is correct or what is incorrect is up to them.
And unless you're turning the volume down on your radio, it's moot, not mute.
I'm not posting to "win" anything. I know I'm right, whether people want to listen to what is correct or what is incorrect is up to them.
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RE: KB 2.6 IC Installed
I actually wanted toread about the car and not listen to the "I know more than you" arguements.
I like the KB, still not sure what I will get. 471 hp seems a tad high for my comfort with the stock internals. But,maybe his will handle it.
The install didn't look too bad at all. It seems like most of the kits people are buying now are very complete and easy to install.
Did you take any pictures of the harnesscutting/splicing/soldering?
I like the KB, still not sure what I will get. 471 hp seems a tad high for my comfort with the stock internals. But,maybe his will handle it.
The install didn't look too bad at all. It seems like most of the kits people are buying now are very complete and easy to install.
Did you take any pictures of the harnesscutting/splicing/soldering?
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KB's installation guide is indeed very well put together. Their kits are 100% complete and the level of detail is second to none.
How easy the install goes is directly related to someone's ability to turn wrenches...it will obviously be easier for some than others. If you're comfortable doing serious R&R on your car you should be fine. Just take your time and walk away if you need to take a break. But two guys and a long weekend should easily be able to get the job done if you've done things like that in the past.
You don't have to make 470+/-...that is merely one pull. The base pull on the tune that came with the kit was around 420ish.
How easy the install goes is directly related to someone's ability to turn wrenches...it will obviously be easier for some than others. If you're comfortable doing serious R&R on your car you should be fine. Just take your time and walk away if you need to take a break. But two guys and a long weekend should easily be able to get the job done if you've done things like that in the past.
You don't have to make 470+/-...that is merely one pull. The base pull on the tune that came with the kit was around 420ish.
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are the higher numbers based on the tune alone? i didnt see anything posted on him having different pulleys. if its just the tune, you can make the adjustments to get it back down to a "safer" HP range, correct?