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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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thinking of getting my car tuned for e85 in the spring, with 16-18psi boost. I don't see many people that have tried it, but does anyone have any experience on this? I've got a full fuel system that shouldn't have premature ethanolwear issues and can flow for 800rwhp, so fuel should not be an issue for the 650 rwhp I'm shooting for
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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You're running some sweet numbers with that turbo. Don't ruin your fuel system with junk gas. Ethanol costs so much morethan gasoline to produce and even though costs are cheaper now, it won't be in the long run.
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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gasoline reserves are running out, manufacturing is irrelevant, gas will go up too.

if e85 is inferior gas then don't go for it, but i've heard that it's actually faster than normal gas.
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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thinking of getting my car tuned for e85 in the spring, with 16-18psi boost. I don't see many people that have tried it, but does anyone have any experience on this? I've got a full fuel system that shouldn't have premature ethanolwear issues and can flow for 800rwhp, so fuel should not be an issue for the 650 rwhp I'm shooting for
why do you want to run ethanol? there is less energy content in each gallon so you will actually get lower fuel economy. although if your fuel system is setup to handle ethanol you should be ok, I think where ethanol cause the most problems is corroding the seals of your fuel system, so if they are upgraded then you should be ok.
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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make sure you go here ...
before , during and after,,
http://e85mustangs.com/

maybe some one there can give you some more in site
on e85
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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I won't go to E85 until I'm forced to.

For one, there's too few E85 gas stations in California (which is supposed to be one of the greenest states in the US - figure out how the treehugger hippies haven't pushed MORE for it) for me to fill up at. I'd have to drive 20+ mi. to the nearest e85 gas station to fill up, and pay MORE per gallon for E85 than I would for regular unleaded gas.

It's one of the biggest snow jobs in the history of the fuel industry...
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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Yeah the last time I looked, there were only 3 stations in Cali, and 2 of them were private. It could be a good deal, but they need to put more money into research to be able to refine it cheaper. Then it will come down, but it doesn't seem like the government is helping much even though they say we need to come up with new fuel sources and greener sources.
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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Ethanol corrodes aluminum and lots of other things too, so I would be somewhat skeptical even if you do have a built fuel system. Also, you do need to inject quite a bit more E85 than gas, so make sure that your pump can handle the flow and that your injectors flow fast enough at high RPM. I help run a turbo 600cc bike motor on E85 and we have to run a pump built for a 2.0 L car motor in order to get enough flow (pumps made for fuel injected bikes don't flow enough for us).

That said, E85 should do a good job of cooling your intake charge. We have a pre-inject in our intake to try to cool the air a little bit more before we get it into the engine. Works just like water/meth injection.

E85 was $2.00 a gallon last time Isaw it in Albany, NY.
Old Dec 13, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Good info. E85 is pretty plentiful here in IN, there's a station 2 minutes from my house, and 5 more within 20. Cost is less, almost to the point that it would offset the worse mileage. I don't want to speculate long term, as the fuel industry is 90% BS anyways. The way i see it, i will pay a little more per mile in fuel, but gain power (higher octane rating, more timing) in return. No horsepower is free. Plus, how many people can say they have a 600+rwhp E85 mustang! there's definitely a certain unique factor involved...
Old Dec 13, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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We have a few stations in the Albany Saratoga NY area.
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