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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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Yep, got to agree with not using the E-Brake. I leave mine in3rd gear if I'm parked on the flat and 2nd or 1st on a gradient, depending on the severity.

Is the car equipped with a Block heater? If not, and you can park where you have access to apower source, why not use of of those?
Old Jan 3, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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OK, I don't think it is a problem with the thermostat, because it does seem accurate and it reads correctly. It just takes 30 min for my car to reach normal operating temp. I can tell it's not the thermostat because it takes a good 15min for the heat to even kick on (that's when the temp guage needle starts to move ever so slightly off of C). I'll probably get this checked...any other ideas?

I am not sure what thermostat you're referring to, how can you tell if it's accurate or reads correctly, maybe you're talking about thetemperature gauge in the car? I was talking about the thermostat in your motor that is controlled by the temperature of the water, it's opens and closes at at predetermined temps. if your thermostat is stuck open the water is always circulating through the radiator and it will take a long time to heat up.
Old Jan 3, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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OK, so it's 3 degrees out, and I'm having some problems. For one, my e-brake is freezing up in the morning like many others. Only after I drive in slushy/watery mix, and then park as the temp drops, though, so I don't know if anything can be done. My car was built AFTER 10/2005 so why do I have this problem???

Secondly, the car is taking forever to warm up...as in 30 minutes to go from cold to normal operating temp. In a v-8!!! WTF?! And why does the rear defroster take so damn long to melt the ice?! As in 45min+...

Third, the car is sometimes having a hard time starting. It sometimes cranks a lot longer than usual before starting.

Lastly, the washer nozzles keep freezing until the engine warms up. Kind of defeats the point of them if they are frozen until the car is warmed up, because by then the defroster has melted ice on the window.

And don't even get me started on traction issues...traction in gears 1-3 is nonexistant even on plowed, dry roads when it's very cold out. Grrr...
1) length of time to warm up has nothing to do with engine size.
2) Ice...uh well it's ICE it's a rear DEFROSTER, not ice melter
3) If the nozzles are frozen well then it's mighty friggin cold then isn't it? You should put some alcohol in with your windshield fluid to 4) help keep it from freezing.
Snow > RWD Traction

5) Best advice, move to warmer climate.
Old Jan 3, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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OK, I don't think it is a problem with the thermostat, because it does seem accurate and it reads correctly. It just takes 30 min for my car to reach normal operating temp. I can tell it's not the thermostat because it takes a good 15min for the heat to even kick on (that's when the temp guage needle starts to move ever so slightly off of C). I'll probably get this checked...any other ideas?

I am not sure what thermostat you're referring to, how can you tell if it's accurate or reads correctly, maybe you're talking about thetemperature gauge in the car? I was talking about the thermostat in your motor that is controlled by the temperature of the water, it's opens and closes at at predetermined temps. if your thermostat is stuck open the water is always circulating through the radiator and it will take a long time to heat up.
+1 Exactly...thats what I was getting at with it would be easy to tell if something was wrong...they are pretty simple parts.
Old Jan 3, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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move to a warmer climate
best advice yet :-D

damn Chicago winters...when are you sending me a check so I can do this??? :-D
Hey I don't mind the winters in chicago, but I have a garage to store my car in. I hate that the town don't plow there road until it stops snowing[:@]
Old Jan 3, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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OK, I don't think it is a problem with the thermostat, because it does seem accurate and it reads correctly. It just takes 30 min for my car to reach normal operating temp. I can tell it's not the thermostat because it takes a good 15min for the heat to even kick on (that's when the temp guage needle starts to move ever so slightly off of C). I'll probably get this checked...any other ideas?

I am not sure what thermostat you're referring to, how can you tell if it's accurate or reads correctly, maybe you're talking about thetemperature gauge in the car? I was talking about the thermostat in your motor that is controlled by the temperature of the water, it's opens and closes at at predetermined temps. if your thermostat is stuck open the water is always circulating through the radiator and it will take a long time to heat up.
oh...i was referring to the temp guage. you know, you might have a point here. if it is this cold, maybe it froze my thermostat open and the water keeps flowing around, causing it to take forever to heat up. that very well could be the case...hmmmmmmmmmm....
Old Jan 3, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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There is a TSB on the freezing parking brake.....take it to a dealer
Old Jan 3, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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+99999 Great advice

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move to a warmer climate
Old Jan 3, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: imyy4u

OK, so it's 3 degrees out, and I'm having some problems. For one, my e-brake is freezing up in the morning like many others. Only after I drive in slushy/watery mix, and then park as the temp drops, though, so I don't know if anything can be done. My car was built AFTER 10/2005 so why do I have this problem???

Secondly, the car is taking forever to warm up...as in 30 minutes to go from cold to normal operating temp. In a v-8!!! WTF?! And why does the rear defroster take so damn long to melt the ice?! As in 45min+...

Third, the car is sometimes having a hard time starting. It sometimes cranks a lot longer than usual before starting.

Lastly, the washer nozzles keep freezing until the engine warms up. Kind of defeats the point of them if they are frozen until the car is warmed up, because by then the defroster has melted ice on the window.

And don't even get me started on traction issues...traction in gears 1-3 is nonexistant even on plowed, dry roads when it's very cold out. Grrr...
1) length of time to warm up has nothing to do with engine size.
2) Ice...uh well it's ICE it's a rear DEFROSTER, not ice melter
3) If the nozzles are frozen well then it's mighty friggin cold then isn't it? You should put some alcohol in with your windshield fluid to 4) help keep it from freezing.
Snow > RWD Traction

5) Best advice, move to warmer climate.
LOL !!



Old Jan 3, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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[quote]ORIGINAL: MrSandman

When I was 16, my dad told me to never use the e-brake in temps colder than 30 F.

Same here.



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