ORIGINAL: ensign_lee

<rant> Going for broke: How did you pull that holdback number out of your butt? Holdback is calcaulated as a percentage of MSRP, not invoice. And for Ford Blue Oval dealers, it's 4.5%. So .045 * 37.5k car (37.5k being a reasonable MSRP for a car that invoices at 35k) = $1687. Then factor in rebates from Ford (right now, it's at about $1000 if you don't qualify for any special ones. It was at $2000 right before the end of 2007), and you get to lower the invoice by that much more. Now, if you can get even lower than that, you cut into their holdback.

I got my stang for ~$2500 under invoice. $2000 of that was rebates, so the dealer got the money, just from Ford instead of me, and then I cut into the holdback about $500. My car MSRPed for ~$35k, so holdback was about $1500. In the end, the dealership earneda bout $1000 in about 3 hours time. I'd consider that MORE than fair. Don't you? And this doesn't even take into account volume bonuses, etc. that the dealership gets.

Furthermore, it's not our job to overpay to support the livelihood of others. If they're willing to do it, there's no reason not to push for a lower price.

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K, back on topic. If you like ambient lighting, go ahead and get it. If my stang had had it already equipped, it definitely wouldn't have been a deal breaker for me. I actually think it's pretty cool, just not $300 worth of cool. You can always get some aftermarket ones for less, so yeah. Anyway, hope that helped. Enjoy your new stang when you get it!

ORIGINAL: ensign_lee

<I got my stang for ~$2500 under invoice. $2000 of that was rebates, so the dealer got the money, just from Ford instead of me, and then I cut into the holdback about $500. My car MSRPed for ~$35k, so holdback was about $1500. In the end, the dealership earneda bout $1000 in about 3 hours time. I'd consider that MORE than fair. Don't you? And this doesn't even take into account volume bonuses, etc. that the dealership gets.

Furthermore, it's not our job to overpay to support the livelihood of others. If they're willing to do it, there's no reason not to push for a lower price.

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ORIGINAL: Going for broke

I pulled the holdback off of the invoice of my own car. I work for a Ford dealer so I think it's safe to assume I know what the holdback is. All dealers pay the same invoice price however different regions have different incentives, programs, lease residuals andsometimes retailpricing (option package savings etc.) I Never saidholdback was calculated on invoice I was just using my invoice as an example My car stickers for 37,710 invoice is 34863.98, d plan is 33578.98 abd the TOTAL HOLDBACK IS1104. I'm not sure where you got your info but it's wrong. not here to argue but only proving my statement.

ORIGINAL: Going for broke

I'd skip the shaker 1000 and get the appearance package,comfort package and the ambient lighting for about the same 1295 the shaker costs... when I was dealer locating my car I was shocked to see that in the 50 or so cars that were dimilar to my requirements only 2 had the shaker 1000 and these were mustangs that stickered from between 37 and 40k not stripped models.
invoice is a fair price and don't let others tell you different.

As for the guy that wants to rip the dealer off so they make nothing (Chidaddy).. I'm sure you have a job to get the things you want and it's badenough that Ford gives the dealer invoice outwhen you build a car on the website so just imagine where your job would be if your company you work for didn't make any money. I'll give you a clue you wouldn't have one. Do you go to the grocery store and negotiate the price on a gallon of milk? Invoice is fair but asking them to give up holdback and adv.is plain being greedy.
The only way I think your buddy got one for 2k back of invoice would be from a factory rebate, at least get your story straight.
Holdback on a 35k invoicemustang is exactly 1104.I think they deserve that don't you??

I do however agree with you that the shaker 500 is more them sufficient.

ORIGINAL: Joolander


just what do you have on your car that makes it sticker for near $38K? I've got a GT/CS with nearly every option availble (except auto), stickered for $34K, and with X-plan and a little negotiation, I paid $27K

just wondering...

ORIGINAL: ChiDiddy

get my facts straight? get YOUR facts straight. there was no rebate for 08 when he bought it. Me being greedy? I could care less how much a dealer makes. You think they arent making money? Your obviously a nieve fool. i dont give a rat @ss however much they make. If its MY MONEY that i work hard for, im not going to GIVE it to someone. You go ahead and continue to live your life letting the stealerships eat your money. Why would they sell a car to you just to lose money? Common sense

ORIGINAL: ChiDiddy

I stated my friend reaceived 2k in rebates? haha i dont have to reread anything. You shoud. If you did, you would know that you said MY BUDDY must have received a 2k rebate to get that price. Once again you need to reread. I stated its an 08, how is it a previous model year. Its nice that you were the manager, but my uncle was very close to owning a lexus dealer but backed away. He told me alot of things people dont know, including managers..........A dealer would never dip into their holdback? That must be why when i bought the expedition 08, they sat down with me and showed me all their papers including their holdback. Thay asked me "how much would YOU like us to make on this car" and i said "nothing". And now i have an 08 expedition EL with leather that i payed 26k driveout for. Believe me if you want