Why I hate TacoBill and BMR Products
04-26-2008, 07:14 PM
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Why I hate TacoBill and BMR Products
First off, let me say, the taco is no longer my hero. And BMR won't see any money from me. That being said, here's the story.
Me and Mike (Tombstang) decide that today would be a great day to do his BMR LCA install with their relocation brackets all with the help of TacoBill's writeup. The install starts off great, all of the stock parts came off nicely after following Taco's writeup, thats when things took a turn for the worst.
First off, the BMR relocation brackets must be made of pure tungsten (strongest heavy metal for those who didn't know) because they were damn near impossible to bang into place with the rubber mallet. One hour and one gatorade later, while baking in the marvelous florida heat we were able to muscle them into place and torque them down. The next step was getting the LCA's on. Mike must have found the cheapest grease gun available on the market because loading the LCA's with grease was one of the most fustrating parts of the install since the grease wouldn't go into the nipple. This leads to why I hate TacoBill.
Thinking things would go smoothly from here on out, we tried to get the LCA's into their brackets, of course it was not able to just slide in, which I expected since I installed my own LCA's and relo bracket a few days prior. First we tried using the mallet to push them into place, they would go up about 3cm and then stop because the metal loop inside the LCA would get stuck on the corner of the bracket. We took out the LCA and tried banging the loop flush since we thought that it was just sticking out on one side. So after that we tried to install it again and we had the same result. Thinking it might just be us, we tried the other side and had the same result.
Fustrated and tired, we referred back to Taco's writeup and saw he suggested using a spare jack to get it into place. So we raise the car further to be able to slide the jack below the LCA. Jacking up the LCA, it went back up the same 3cm and then after jacking it further, the entire axle would lift up and the LCA would get stuck in the same place all over again. We tried a combination of jacking and using the mallet on both sides of the car and hours later we made no progress. We then tried to widen the brackets with the mallet and they wouldn't bent even the slightest bit. Then Mike has the bright idea of getting a grinder and going to town on the LCA relo brackets. So we jump in the Batmobile and take a trip to home depot to rent a grinder to murder the relo brackets. After dealing with the Guinnes Book world record holder for "slowest working cashier" for 20 minutes at the home depot tool rental, we finally rent the wheel grinder. We jet back to the Bat Cave and after harrasing my neighbors to borrow an extension cord which I lack we finally get to killing the relo brackets.
About 15 minutes later and after about 2 near death experiences where Mike nearly lights my shorts on fire with sparks from the grinder we make some headway. We grind down some of the bottom portion of the LCA bracket in order to get the LCA to fit in it. Next we try to fit in the LCA's and they go in a bit with the mallet and we still had to use the jack to get them into place but they finally slip in the holes. After fighting the rear axle to get the front bolts in place for another half hour, we're finally finished with the LCA install.
So what was supposed to take only 2 hours, ended up taking us upwards of 5. I did my own LCA and relocation bracket on my car a few days ago with the CHE LCA's and the J&M relo bracket and it went very smoothly and I was done in no time. Ladies and gentlemen, it's my deepest regret that I have to inform you all that TacoBill has let us down. He in no way prepared us for the extreme measures we had to take in order to get these parts to fit properly. If Taco had a fanclub, I would have been the president, it's because of his write up's that I was able to install 90% of the parts on my car myself. But this time, he left us out to dry, to swim with the sharks, up a creek without a paddle, to skydive without a parachute, in short, he fed us to the wolves. Who would imagine that two parts from BMR that were mean't for each other would be so difficult to get together. This is why me and Tomgstang are choosing to boycott TacoBill write ups as well as BMR products.
Who's with me?!?!?!
Me and Mike (Tombstang) decide that today would be a great day to do his BMR LCA install with their relocation brackets all with the help of TacoBill's writeup. The install starts off great, all of the stock parts came off nicely after following Taco's writeup, thats when things took a turn for the worst.
First off, the BMR relocation brackets must be made of pure tungsten (strongest heavy metal for those who didn't know) because they were damn near impossible to bang into place with the rubber mallet. One hour and one gatorade later, while baking in the marvelous florida heat we were able to muscle them into place and torque them down. The next step was getting the LCA's on. Mike must have found the cheapest grease gun available on the market because loading the LCA's with grease was one of the most fustrating parts of the install since the grease wouldn't go into the nipple. This leads to why I hate TacoBill.
Thinking things would go smoothly from here on out, we tried to get the LCA's into their brackets, of course it was not able to just slide in, which I expected since I installed my own LCA's and relo bracket a few days prior. First we tried using the mallet to push them into place, they would go up about 3cm and then stop because the metal loop inside the LCA would get stuck on the corner of the bracket. We took out the LCA and tried banging the loop flush since we thought that it was just sticking out on one side. So after that we tried to install it again and we had the same result. Thinking it might just be us, we tried the other side and had the same result.
Fustrated and tired, we referred back to Taco's writeup and saw he suggested using a spare jack to get it into place. So we raise the car further to be able to slide the jack below the LCA. Jacking up the LCA, it went back up the same 3cm and then after jacking it further, the entire axle would lift up and the LCA would get stuck in the same place all over again. We tried a combination of jacking and using the mallet on both sides of the car and hours later we made no progress. We then tried to widen the brackets with the mallet and they wouldn't bent even the slightest bit. Then Mike has the bright idea of getting a grinder and going to town on the LCA relo brackets. So we jump in the Batmobile and take a trip to home depot to rent a grinder to murder the relo brackets. After dealing with the Guinnes Book world record holder for "slowest working cashier" for 20 minutes at the home depot tool rental, we finally rent the wheel grinder. We jet back to the Bat Cave and after harrasing my neighbors to borrow an extension cord which I lack we finally get to killing the relo brackets.
About 15 minutes later and after about 2 near death experiences where Mike nearly lights my shorts on fire with sparks from the grinder we make some headway. We grind down some of the bottom portion of the LCA bracket in order to get the LCA to fit in it. Next we try to fit in the LCA's and they go in a bit with the mallet and we still had to use the jack to get them into place but they finally slip in the holes. After fighting the rear axle to get the front bolts in place for another half hour, we're finally finished with the LCA install.
So what was supposed to take only 2 hours, ended up taking us upwards of 5. I did my own LCA and relocation bracket on my car a few days ago with the CHE LCA's and the J&M relo bracket and it went very smoothly and I was done in no time. Ladies and gentlemen, it's my deepest regret that I have to inform you all that TacoBill has let us down. He in no way prepared us for the extreme measures we had to take in order to get these parts to fit properly. If Taco had a fanclub, I would have been the president, it's because of his write up's that I was able to install 90% of the parts on my car myself. But this time, he left us out to dry, to swim with the sharks, up a creek without a paddle, to skydive without a parachute, in short, he fed us to the wolves. Who would imagine that two parts from BMR that were mean't for each other would be so difficult to get together. This is why me and Tomgstang are choosing to boycott TacoBill write ups as well as BMR products.
Who's with me?!?!?!
04-26-2008, 07:21 PM
#4
RE: Why I hate TacoBill and BMR Products
so because of one time his write-up wasn't quite clear enough, you're not listening to his threads ever again?[&:]
its not like he gets paid, or even needs to show you how he did anything to his car [>:]
sorry you had trouble, but sometimes things like that happen
its not like he gets paid, or even needs to show you how he did anything to his car [>:]
sorry you had trouble, but sometimes things like that happen
04-26-2008, 07:36 PM
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RE: Why I hate TacoBill and BMR Products
ORIGINAL: MustangBatman1
sounds like today just isn't your day, no need to bash TacoBill...
04-26-2008, 07:44 PM
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RE: Why I hate TacoBill and BMR Products
ORIGINAL: howarmat
i had none of these problems at all when i did mine, didnt even need a rubber mallet
sorry fellows....
i had none of these problems at all when i did mine, didnt even need a rubber mallet
sorry fellows....
I agree user error.
Idk if its just me but they way you wrote your first post it seems like you loaded the LCA"S with grease before installing them in the brackets and torqing everything down. You are supposed to grease the bushing once everything is installed and with the suspension loaded
. Corect me if im wrong but the way you wrote it up it sounds like you greased them before getting them installed in the brackets.
04-26-2008, 07:45 PM
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RE: Why I hate TacoBill and BMR Products
ORIGINAL: mx07gt
I had no problem following TacoBill's write up...
sounds like today just isn't your day, no need to bash TacoBill...
ORIGINAL: MustangBatman1
sounds like today just isn't your day, no need to bash TacoBill...
Well I cant just give up on taco just yet cause I have a few more mods to install that I have no clue what im doing,lol and if I rely on the bmr instructions the parts wont get on my car. I cant boycott BMr just yet cause I stil have to install my panhard and my k-member with tourque limiters
.Maybe If I got that on i wouldnt have missed 3rd gear when we were racing today too.
Ya today was a big pain in the *** and if it wasnt for the grinder my car would still be in batmans garage untill i could fly Taco bill out to insall them. I was giving up.
Now with this said I need to go wash the love bugs off my car and post pics of the new hood. wich I must say is NASTY. Ill forget all about this when I go back out side and see my hood.
