mustangman0303

E85 is highly corrosive. Its gong to eat at anything thats not metal in your engine for lunch. Plastics, gaskets, and seals wont last under prolonged use. If yourcar isnt designated E85 friendly its not a good idea to use it.

DarkFireGT

I'm planning on switching over as well. Not for gas mileage, but for the horsepower. When I get my nitrous, I'm sure it'll really help. The problem with putting it in your Explorer is that it is not tuned for it. It has an adaptive program that "learns" and reacts to changes in the fuel. But that's not the same thing. If it were to be tuned for it specifically, you wouldn't have those problems.

All modern cars can withstand E85. The only reason that they are not sold as "flex fuel" vehicles, is that it costs money to certify a car for it, and they don't figure that a car like the Mustang is worth it. It also costs money to add that adaptive tuning to the car. And as I stated above, you really need a specific tune for what you're going to run if you want to get the best performance out of it.

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I do not think E85 is the solution to our problems, and on a daily driver, I would never run it. But it's damned cheap race gas!

dschmink

This E85 **** pisses me off. Ignorant Americans are jumping on the bandwagon because the politicians SAY it's good. They're only saying that because if they seem environmentally friendly, that means more votes. The fact is that E85 is destroying natrual vegetation and contributing to environmental decline faster than a gas guzzler ever has. Not to mention how high food prices are going with the ever increasing lack of food supply. We use to export crops and now we're slowly losing that income to our economy. This was a temporary fix for a small amount of vehicles. The world can't keep up fast enough for the demand that is coming from this false solution. Sooner or later this is going to cause some serious economical disasters and it will be sooner rather than later. I urge you guys to give this some serious reading into. The simple numbers is that it costs more for us to make a small percentage more ethanol than gasoline. We use oil to make the E85 which gets worse gas mileage, and does more harm to the overall scheme of things.

I hope this fad goes away and soon.

Here's a good read: http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2006/5/23/23846/0807

Eight433

i find this rather entertaining. you say you spend 800 a month on fuel, but you are unwilling to spend another 10 bucks a month. 10 dollars on top of 800 dollars is 1 1/4% increase. seems rather insignificant to me. As for the e85/fossil fuel debate, i wouldent touch that with a 39 1/2 foot pole [sm=icon_stickpoke.gif]

pascal

I wanna see Propane conversions.
The technology has been there and that source of energy is plentiful...

Let's all get forklifts!!


BTW Justin, nice write-up.

cubican

Will you be back in texas any time soon. I have an X-charger 4.0 car and plenty of E-85 in Dallas.

NaplesFL11GT

I cringe whenver I put E10 in my GT when I fill up. There arent any stations around me that has 100% gasoline anymore. My car gets worse gas mileage as well. Even my daily driver which is a ZX2 hates it and runs like crap.

howarmat

You car shouldnt run like crap just becuase the gas has 10% blend in it....like you stated all gas is pretty much a ethonal blend. If it runs like crap you have other issues. Could just be bad gas at that station or whatever but considering the everyone uses it everyones car would be running like crap then too.

DarkFireGT

All stations here have 10% ethanol, and I get over 20mpg city, 30 hwy, and 27 interstate.

JTE_502

Well this is one debate that will always get me fired up. Its almost disgusting hearing the people complaining because we are trying to become a self sufficient country (even though yes I know we are far from it), but its a step in the right direction. I'm a farmer and I see a much different picture than most of you do. You see the higher food prices in the stores and complain about them, the problem is that this country has never been hungry before. Everything in this country has been going up in price since the beginning of time, other than the prices us farmers get for our crops, because that is controlled by the Chicago Board of Trade. This country has always had an over supply of food thanks to us farmers, and because of that over supply and the extremely low prices of grains, it has put many farmers out of business, and has made the government step in and have to pass Farm Bills just so we can continue to live and work. Finally grain prices are up, but yet they are still nowhere as high as if they had kept up with inflation all these years. Sure its easy for all of you to say no to ethanol because its hurting you due to higher food prices and such, but remember that there are MANY farmers who have been suffering for a long long time growing cheap crops so this country can eat. There are both sides to the story, sadly most will never ever see the side that I see daily...