Using a hydraulic floor jack
http://iihs.net/fsm/?dir=45&viewfile=Jacking.pdf
http://iihs.net/fsm/?dir=45&viewfile=Lifting.pdf
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http://iihs.net/fsm/?dir=45&viewfile=Lifting.pdf
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That link to the lift points only points the jack points for the scissor jack that come with the car. Where should I put jack stands on the front and rear? Pictures please....
This had been my guess for the front. Looks like the jack stands are on that "frame-looking part" that goes diagonally from near the front jack point towards the center of the front suspension. Wasn't sure if this was really the frame or not.

I also found this which looks like a no-no (jack stands under a suspension part):

For the rear? I'm not exactly sure what the jack stand is touching here...
thanks shanec and pascal, I just wasted the last half hour of my life reading this thread from the beginning since you guys bumped it
can't someone be a team player and bend their axle internals so we can have some concrete evidence already?
can't someone be a team player and bend their axle internals so we can have some concrete evidence already?
I don't jack from the rear pumpkin. Why take a chance when you don't have to? I'm not going to get to the whole debate of whether or not it causes damage, it's simply a difficult place (small) to access on a lowered car. I just jack along the frame rails that run on each side of the car to change tires and jackstands can be placed here too. If it's the front you can just use the front cross member, but I still prefer the frame rails.
Where in that picture above are the rear frame rails?
I've heard the point where you're supposed to use the sissor jack is a good place for a jack stand. But then I'd have to jack from some other location.
I've heard the point where you're supposed to use the sissor jack is a good place for a jack stand. But then I'd have to jack from some other location.
The sissor jack location uses the frame rails but there is just a small cutout in the side skirting that will not work with a real jack.
Look under you car, just behind/beyond the plastic skirt there will be a 2-3 inch wide metal ledge that runs along the length of the car (from wheel to wheel). This the frame rail and you can jack the car anywhere along its length. Beyond the frame rail is just the floor pan, don't jack there! Jack stands can be placed on the frame rail to support the car.
Look under you car, just behind/beyond the plastic skirt there will be a 2-3 inch wide metal ledge that runs along the length of the car (from wheel to wheel). This the frame rail and you can jack the car anywhere along its length. Beyond the frame rail is just the floor pan, don't jack there! Jack stands can be placed on the frame rail to support the car.
Pothole =s the weight being transfered from the body to the
springs to the spring perches on the ends of the axle tubes
down thru the axle bearings at the ends of the axle tubes
to the axles to the rims to the tires to the ground. The Pumpkin
takes little to no stress where the axle tubes enter it when you
hit a pothole. Back to school for you......
Hint: Its the lever principal
Last edited by 157dB; Oct 22, 2008 at 09:11 AM.
OMG this thread is still going????
Has anyone ever measured the amount of deflection when you accelerate and your pumpkin tries to rotate but is stopped by the control arms out at the end of the axle tubes? Wanna talk about a lever.
Has anyone ever measured the amount of deflection when you accelerate and your pumpkin tries to rotate but is stopped by the control arms out at the end of the axle tubes? Wanna talk about a lever.


