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Old May 14, 2005 | 01:32 AM
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Update>>>
as I thought, when I tried a different type of nozzle at a 76 station the problem didn't happen!
It was the older style pump with 3 separate nozzles. I put on the lock and it filled up by itself.
Just have to find one around my own neighborhood.
Old May 14, 2005 | 01:38 AM
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I use the same gas station in town all the time and I don't have any problems, when I travel I will have to make due, I won't drop my car off at the dealer for the warranty fixes until November, right before it sits in the garage for the winter.
Old May 17, 2005 | 03:12 AM
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I'm averaging about 320 miles per tank with my V6.... ~21MPG taking it easy and ~19MPG flooring it often.
Old May 17, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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I get 375 miles per tank in my 87 honda accord flooring it too.... whats the point? [sm=dontgetit.gif]
Old Dec 26, 2006 | 12:15 AM
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I have been having this same problem. I will contact my dealer about this TSB. Pretty annoying but I dont think I have it as bad as some. It takes me a while to fill up which is the worst part because I am usually filling on my way to work!
Old Dec 26, 2006 | 02:42 AM
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You can always get a tune that will give you better gas mileage but it may not be very much!
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well.. if I'm not the only one.. then I guess thats normal.. but I still wonder if a tune would help me out on that a little more... maybe...
Old Jan 1, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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I'm pretty sure this is posted elsewhere, but TSB 05-15-12, which stipulated a new fuel tank, was replaced by TSB 06-3-13. The latter states that all 2005 Mustangs built after 26 April 2005 and all 2006 Mustangs already have the revised tank. Interestingly, it states that the premature fuel fill shut-off is still possible, but their suggested solution is, and I quote: "using a different filling station fuel pump."

So basically we get a rewrite of the old joke, Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I raise my arm?"Doctor: "Well, then don't raise your arm!" And with this tremendous advice, it certainly sounds like Ford considers the matter solved and closed. Hey, thanks a ton, gents. Is your TSB for preventing an engine fire "Don't start the car?"

Anyway, it turns out that at least their non-solution solution is accurate. I get half a tank, no more no less, from some stations consistently and a perfect fill from others. The deciding factor seems to be the style of pump. The ones that work are an older style where the pump is freestanding (likea mailbox or similar) and the hose doesn'tever travelmuch higher than the car's fuel inlet. The pumps that only give 50% are the new kind with the hoses that come from overhead. Is it gravity/suction? Is it nozzle design? I don't know yet, but the following factors have no effect:

1. Pump pressure - whether I pump at 3:00 PM with 7 other cars drawing from the pressure pool or at 3:00 AM with nobody else around, it's the same. Gas stations are like broadband; the more pumps active the slower they all go. You can see this in the speed of the pump readout.

2. Shaking the nozzle onto the ground before pumping, to dislodge any fuel that may have gotten sucked into the vapor return line. This used to work every time on my '90 Stang but not any more.

3. Ambient temperature - whether it's 60F or 30F, (which I've had all in the space of the past month), the problem is the same. I imagine the temp of the fuel itself doesn't change so much since it's stored underground.

The only remaining theory I have is drawn from the fact that like most others with this problem, I didn't have it at first either -only after 6 - 8 months. I think there is an element of the vapor recovery system that clogs up, either from buildup or deterioration, and renders the filling processincreasingly finicky. Fuel tank angioplasty, anyone?

- K -

Old Jan 1, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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I dont have this problem, my car fills fast all the way up. Strange some would have it others not.
Old Jan 1, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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heres what i did, i had an 05 v6 bought earlier this year, brand new with aftermarket rims, it gave me the issue after the first week but once i installed the locking gas cap, the issue stop, so i think that the issue is with the gas cap, just switch it and let me know what happens
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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Has anyone tried this yet?



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