X or H Pipe
08-27-2008, 10:44 PM
#21
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I have had them both with 3 diff muffler set ups and I must say the x pipe is 10x more aggressive then the h. This is all o/r applications too. The x sounds ok ya it helps and makes it deep but I would take the x any day and that is what I did.
All depends on what mufflers you have also.
toss ya flows in the garbage too,lol whoever said they are really loud with a h pipe is wronggggggggg. my car with stock h and my old macs was alot louder even then flows with o/r h. guy in my condo has that set up and I hate it and there is nothign mean about it.
IMO
All depends on what mufflers you have also.
toss ya flows in the garbage too,lol whoever said they are really loud with a h pipe is wronggggggggg. my car with stock h and my old macs was alot louder even then flows with o/r h. guy in my condo has that set up and I hate it and there is nothign mean about it.
IMO
Two, saying the Flows/Pypes H is quieter than macs/stock H is ridiculous. I never said it was funny car loud I just stated when removing the cats the car gets loud.
08-27-2008, 11:22 PM
#22
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reference:
gt/cs corsa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVI1D6AzzBg
gt corsa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPivq...eature=related
maybe i'm going crazy, but it sounds diff to me. well any input would be great thanks in advance!
08-27-2008, 11:46 PM
#24
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honestly i have flow masters with bbk LT and bbk OR/X and I love the way it sounds
and VistaGT no offense but who are you to say that something sounds good and something doesn't everyone has there own opinions .you don't think it sounds good and I do.
To the OP if i were you I would do some research on youtube and some local Carshows check out what people have and make your decision based on that
and VistaGT no offense but who are you to say that something sounds good and something doesn't everyone has there own opinions .you don't think it sounds good and I do.
To the OP if i were you I would do some research on youtube and some local Carshows check out what people have and make your decision based on that
08-28-2008, 02:09 AM
#27
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I have heared basically every set up there is and even in my youtube profile there are vids of almost every set up so my reasoning is far from ridiculous, I no longer have the macs so there is no reason for me to hype them up and boast my mac muffler crew crap . It is what it is and flows are passive as a **** even with a o/r set up.
08-28-2008, 07:43 AM
#28
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ok my 2 cents
Get a H if you have chambered muffs
Get a X if you have Glass packs aka MID MUFFS the only way to go IMO either magnaflow or pypes... if you go pypes get it professionally installed as they have crap fitment as i know first hand.
a x pype is better by design IMO it forces the gases to collide and causes an equal and balanced motor
A h pype will not function after 3k rpm the gasses bypass the mid pype and an unbalanced motor besides there is less backpressure on the exhaust valves. the valves seat better with an X
H's will have a less "balanced/ regular tone" where an X will sound balanced and percise and mixed with glass packs to minimize sound distortion or reverb to create a clean pure raw motor sound. yes it is more raw but thats better because you can actualy hear the motor vrs reverb in the muffs.
your choice but go X with straight throughs...
Get a H if you have chambered muffs
Get a X if you have Glass packs aka MID MUFFS the only way to go IMO either magnaflow or pypes... if you go pypes get it professionally installed as they have crap fitment as i know first hand.
a x pype is better by design IMO it forces the gases to collide and causes an equal and balanced motor
A h pype will not function after 3k rpm the gasses bypass the mid pype and an unbalanced motor besides there is less backpressure on the exhaust valves. the valves seat better with an X
H's will have a less "balanced/ regular tone" where an X will sound balanced and percise and mixed with glass packs to minimize sound distortion or reverb to create a clean pure raw motor sound. yes it is more raw but thats better because you can actualy hear the motor vrs reverb in the muffs.
your choice but go X with straight throughs...
Approximate lol, with sh#tty clamps.
If it's any help, an o/r X pipes with flowmasters (2 chambers) under the floors, not axle back, was the best 3v engine I've herd so far.
Of course, it's very subjective since it's my humble opinion...
08-28-2008, 09:16 AM
#29
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I am on my second xpipe on my S197. I had an o/r and when i got my LT's i got a catted x. I have a custome made exhaust with a set of pypes race pro m80s under the middle of the car. Out of the 4-5 (if you count the straight pipes i had make as one) exhaust systems i've run on this car, this one sounds the best. The mufflers being moved in front of the axle completely change the way a 3v sounds. Trust me i experimented for quite a while trying to find the sound i want. Just something to think about.
On to the subject at hand. I run xpipes on 2 of my mustangs. The third has no midpip (65 289) but I will fab up an xpipe for it when i get back to the states. I grew up hearing foxbodys with h pipes. Then when mod motored mustangs hit the streets, most were bolting up h pipes. It wasn't until the last 5-6 years that i started hearing mustangs with x pipes. I remember seeing an episode of horsepower tv where they swapped an h for an x on a 67 chevelle SS 396 and their dyno showed a few extra ponies.
The x flows better, merging the exhaust pulses from each bank more efficiently. When i was running an o/r with pypes violator axle back, if you listened at idle you could hear a faint howling sound (aside from the engine and exhaust note) which was the exhaust pulses flowing through the pipe and reverberating like a tuning fork. Kinda reminded me of the sound that the helicoptor on that old show "Air Wolf" used to make. Damn i revealed my age i guess. It wasn't loud, very faint, never got annoying....kinda cool actually.
I got rid of that set up because of the popping and gurgling sounds on deceleration. And because i got long tubes. I have an o/r x on my 5.0 with a mac cat back. Can't wait to hear that one with the new built motor and wicked street cam!!!
Xpipe brah!
On to the subject at hand. I run xpipes on 2 of my mustangs. The third has no midpip (65 289) but I will fab up an xpipe for it when i get back to the states. I grew up hearing foxbodys with h pipes. Then when mod motored mustangs hit the streets, most were bolting up h pipes. It wasn't until the last 5-6 years that i started hearing mustangs with x pipes. I remember seeing an episode of horsepower tv where they swapped an h for an x on a 67 chevelle SS 396 and their dyno showed a few extra ponies.
The x flows better, merging the exhaust pulses from each bank more efficiently. When i was running an o/r with pypes violator axle back, if you listened at idle you could hear a faint howling sound (aside from the engine and exhaust note) which was the exhaust pulses flowing through the pipe and reverberating like a tuning fork. Kinda reminded me of the sound that the helicoptor on that old show "Air Wolf" used to make. Damn i revealed my age i guess. It wasn't loud, very faint, never got annoying....kinda cool actually.
I got rid of that set up because of the popping and gurgling sounds on deceleration. And because i got long tubes. I have an o/r x on my 5.0 with a mac cat back. Can't wait to hear that one with the new built motor and wicked street cam!!!
Xpipe brah!
08-28-2008, 09:57 AM
#30
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I'm running the Magnaflow OR/X with axlebacks. Sounds better in real life and great on the road. Here's a sound clip of idle.
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x...t=100_2001.flv
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x...t=100_2001.flv
