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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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definitely worth it. it's insurance.
Old Nov 21, 2008 | 12:44 AM
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That's the way i'm looking at it tex, cheap compared to what I already have invested in the car lol
Old Nov 21, 2008 | 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SirKnightTG
AeroForce Interceptors. I have two and they're awesome. They can also display boost when the time comes.

I'd say get a triple gauge pillar pod with a WB and a dual set of AeroForce Interceptors.
That is a great idea and I am getting the SOS triple pillar with dual interceptor gauges (400-I think) and a boost gauge (mechanical). Later I will add the WB and IC temp to the air vents above the radio. I would go with autometer as they have so many types and options and are very trusted and have been around forever. Innovate is a great company for the WB as well......just make sure the wideband O2 sensor is bosch 5-wire (regardless of company you buy it from)!!!!!
Old Nov 21, 2008 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mygt500
......just make sure the wideband O2 sensor is bosch 5-wire (regardless of company you buy it from)!!!!!
5-wire you say? Reasoning behind this? Definitely some useful information guys keep it coming
Old Nov 21, 2008 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EagleStroker
5-wire you say? Reasoning behind this? Definitely some useful information guys keep it coming
Good question but I have no idea....I quoted that from innovate's website and I do know the bosch O2 sensors are the best for the W/B gauges. Maybe better for data logging? I'm reaching though....

Basically all wideband O2 senors are 5 wire and the 4 wire is an OEM or standard O2 sensor and will just give rich or lean conditions and NOT a more accurate value for the A/F ratio.

here is where I got that info from

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Wide Band oxygen sensors may also be referred to as 5 Wire oxygen sensors and Air/Fuel sensors (although not all Air/Fuel sensors are wide band).



Simple explanation first.
Wide Band sensors operate different from traditional oxygen sensors by producing a variable voltage based on the air/fuel ratio in the exhaust gas. This is different from earlier oxygen sensors as they only reported if the air/fuel mix was rich or lean, but not how rich or how lean. A Wide Band Oxygen sensor is superior because it helps the ECU maintain a stoichiometric air/fuel mixture by supplying a variable voltage telling the ECU how rich or lean the current exhaust gas is. This allows for far more accurate and efficient engine fuel management.


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There are significant engineering differences between how the wide band sensor and its predecessor, the zirconia planar sensor operate. However, we are not prepared to go into Nernst cell anode/cathode diffusion gaps, so we’ll keep it simple. The 5 wire or Wide Band oxygen sensor builds upon the original planar design, but it adds the ability to actually measure the air/fuel ratio directly. Instead of only switching back and forth from rich to lean like its binary zirconia predecessor, the wide band oxygen sensor produces a variable (voltage) that tells the ECU how rich or how lean the current air/fuel mixture is. This is a much more precise method of metering the air/fuel mixture. Instead of constantly cycling back and forth from rich to lean to keep up with the latest report from the oxygen sensor, the ECU can now maintain a constant 14.7:1 mixture (also known as stoichiometric) because of the superior reporting from the wide band sensor.

Other differences between the 5 wire wide band oxygen sensor and the zirconia planar type are, the 5 wire wide band operates at about 1200 to 1500° Fahrenheit instead of the standard operational temperature of about 600° (316° Celsius). Also it does not produce its own voltage; it is reliant on a controller or ECU to supply a reference voltage to operate. Based on the oxygen content of the exhaust, the sensor delivers a signal ranging from 5 volts for a rich mixture to 0 volts for an extremely lean mixture (0.0 volts for straight air), A standard zirconia sensor reported a simple binary signal of greater or lesser than 450 millivolts.

Homework Done!!!!

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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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I've got the Aeroforce gauge, and its VERY cool. I saw a post in the Lethal Performance forum yesterday where they are selling some for $200 shipped. Thats a pretty good deal considering I paid like $240 for mine...

Heres the link:
https://mustangforums.com/forum/lethal-performance/498692-select-aeroforce-gauges-for-cheap.html
Old Nov 21, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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Man, awesome deal! I wish those came in blue, but I may have to order a pair anyways those are some pretty sick gauges

Can anyone tell me the difference between these two?

http://www.lethalperformance.com/pag...an-gauges.html

http://www.lethalperformance.com/pag...can-gauge.html

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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by EagleStroker
Man, awesome deal! I wish those came in blue, but I may have to order a pair anyways those are some pretty sick gauges

Can anyone tell me the difference between these two?

http://www.lethalperformance.com/pag...an-gauges.html

http://www.lethalperformance.com/pag...can-gauge.html
The set for $399 is for a dual set of gauges. The set for $239 is for a single gauge.
Old Nov 22, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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Thank god I look at this tread before I ordered guages! Now which pillar do I buy or should I go vent pods?
Old Nov 22, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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The SOS pillar is great and very OEM looking and the roush vents pods are extremely OEM as well and would look great too!



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