adabildoya

I am not looking for a 0.1 sec quicker 1/4 mi as much as quicker acceleration in DD eg:
25- 45 40- 60 50- 70 etc.



Thank you

Riptide

I wouldn't pay 16 grand on an 05 with that much mileage. You'd get a better deal if you bought out of state and just drove it back.

adabildoya

What kind of prices are out there for a 46,000 miles 05 gt 5speed manual??
Is $15K a fair price from dealer?
The dealer wants to add $$$ of course for the extended warranty
Opinions $$ on warranty are appreciated..
skip it?
max warranty?
minimal?

My sti feels faster through the gears- this lack of quickness is a stumbling block for me. Only 1st gear in the GT seems fast, 2nd, 3rd are a disappointment. This leads me to think that the cars rear end ( final drive ) needs to be changed
To what ratio- 4.10 or?
Cost of this ?
How much does this effect mpg on highway cruising speeds ???
Thanks

Riptide

First of all if it's a dealer than $16K probably isn't that far off. If you go private party you should be able to do a bit better I think.

Regarding the quickness my friend's 08 STI feels like it pulls harder than my car. Feelings can be deceptive though. In 1/4 mile race it would still end up being pretty close with the nod probably going to him. But I understand what you are getting at. The STI has shorter gears and that makes a big difference in the feeling you're talking about in 2-3.

Most of these cars came stock with 3.31 rear ends. 3.55 was an option but isn't as common as the former. If you want to make the car accelerate faster down low then you'll need to upgrade the gears. I'd get at least 3.73. If you do a lot of highway driving you can still do 4.10 gears - but you'll want to keep it around 70mph for best gas mileage.

Also if you have traction issues launching out of the hole, this is RWD, so you'll end up sooner or later wanting better tires and maybe some control arms.

adabildoya

2005 Ford Mustang GT 4.6L V8* 5.1 13.5
2006 Subaru WRX STI 4.5 13.0 MT

I got these #'s from http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

I am almost positive the sti's 6 speed ( shorter gears ) tran, and lighter weight combine to make it quicker.

I like to cruise at 75 even 80 for shorter stretches.
So, 4.10 would be too short, in that case?

The dealer is at $15K not 16K. Is 15K fair?

Thank you

Riptide

Those are some impressive times for the 06 STI. Most sources I've seen show slower than that. 13.6 in the 1/4 and more like 4.8-5.0 0-60. The times quoted for the 06 there are even better than what I've seen so far (in magazines yes) for the 08. Hell of a driver there or it was modded.

Anyhow is 4.10 to short for 75-80mph cruise? I don't know. Depends on the distance. It will be louder in the cabin if you get an exhaust because the engine will be rev'd up to around 3000RPM and sitting there. I don't think it would bug me at all - but only if it was just a 5-10 mile cruise at that speed/rpm. Beyond that and you'll start sucking down gasoline bad and it'll be kinda loud with an aftermarket exhaust on there.

Go to kbb.com and check the pricing on the 05 with the options you want. You can get a general idea of what is a reasonable price for both a private party and "retail" which means dealer.

Shelby_Daytona

Extended Warranty can have its pro's and con's...make sure the dealer is selling you a Ford ESP as opposed to an aftermarket warranty (like Lubrico or something equivalent). I am the Finance Manager at a Ford store and sell Ford ESPs on a regular basis, lots of the time the cost of a single repair will be greater than the cost of the ESP, other times you may not directly see the value if nothing goes wrong with your car, but it still gives you the peace of mind that if something 'were' to go wrong, it will be covered. The best value on a Ford ESP - for used vehicles is the 2-year / 40,000 km or 3-year / 60,000 km PremiumCare. There is a 4-year/80,000 one available depending on current mileage but it is generally FAR more expensive as the risk for Ford goes way up. You will have to excuse the 'km', I'm a hockey playin' beer drinkin' Canadian!

Also, do you plan to keeping the car stock? I am going to supercharge mine so a Ford ESP would be VOID anyway, that may or may not be a factor in your decision. Hope this helps a little.

adabildoya

I drive sti daily
i test drove mustang on several occasions
I am telling you, it is slower after leaving 1st gear.

If mustang had same gearing, 6 speed, it would be quicker, no doubt about it.

Why do I freely admit to loving the GT in 1st gear? It feels great, usable, etc. But 2nd gear disappoints. I prefer the Mustang over the STI subie in 1st.
It has nothing to do with Subie


Gearing is critical to quickness.

Riptide

Yes it is. And the gearing on the mustang is a dog. It's geared more for gas mileage and for top end.

The STI pulls harder because of AWD, the short gears, and the fact it's a turbo doesn't hurt either.

Seriously if you want to match the STI for that low end pull then you'll need the gearset. 3.31 isn't gonna cut it.

pwrl3ss

For reference, I got my 05 GT with 3k on it for about $16k (3 months ago). But I have a deluxe (no leather, no Shaker) with IUP. I think you can do better.