Exhaust/Header Question
#12
the roush axle-back is a great choice if you want a drone-less sound!
also, not to hijack the thread, but does installing a catted H or X pipe detract from any hp gained by a full exhaust setup with o/r pipes?
also, not to hijack the thread, but does installing a catted H or X pipe detract from any hp gained by a full exhaust setup with o/r pipes?
#13
Going to a midpipe with high flow cats or O/R will gain you some decent HP and MUCH louder sound. My car is several times louder with the high flow cats that come with my Kooks header package.
I blew through one of my high flow cats before installing it and it was almost like blowing through a straight pipe like the cat wasn't even there. It's crazy. I then blew through my stock cat once they were off and it was like blowing through a wad of socks. Those things are actually a pretty big restriction. Of course it's obvious that's the case by just hearing how different they sound. Stock cats suck!
Oh also, you'll need a tune if you got an O/R midpipe due to the rear o2's not seeing the cats anymore. You'll throw a CEL. You'll probably be fine with high flows.
I blew through one of my high flow cats before installing it and it was almost like blowing through a straight pipe like the cat wasn't even there. It's crazy. I then blew through my stock cat once they were off and it was like blowing through a wad of socks. Those things are actually a pretty big restriction. Of course it's obvious that's the case by just hearing how different they sound. Stock cats suck!
Oh also, you'll need a tune if you got an O/R midpipe due to the rear o2's not seeing the cats anymore. You'll throw a CEL. You'll probably be fine with high flows.
#14
No. Brenspeed told me that with the high flows that come from Kooks (and probably most others), there's about a 1% difference in HP between them and an O/R pipe (and that's on a 600HP car!).
#15
Going to a midpipe with high flow cats or O/R will gain you some decent HP and MUCH louder sound. My car is several times louder with the high flow cats that come with my Kooks header package.
I blew through one of my high flow cats before installing it and it was almost like blowing through a straight pipe like the cat wasn't even there. It's crazy. I then blew through my stock cat once they were off and it was like blowing through a wad of socks. Those things are actually a pretty big restriction. Of course it's obvious that's the case by just hearing how different they sound. Stock cats suck!
Oh also, you'll need a tune if you got an O/R midpipe due to the rear o2's not seeing the cats anymore. You'll throw a CEL. You'll probably be fine with high flows.
I blew through one of my high flow cats before installing it and it was almost like blowing through a straight pipe like the cat wasn't even there. It's crazy. I then blew through my stock cat once they were off and it was like blowing through a wad of socks. Those things are actually a pretty big restriction. Of course it's obvious that's the case by just hearing how different they sound. Stock cats suck!
Oh also, you'll need a tune if you got an O/R midpipe due to the rear o2's not seeing the cats anymore. You'll throw a CEL. You'll probably be fine with high flows.
#16
thanks! The kooks headers w/ catted H-Pipe is actually exactly what im looking into! Can't wait to get those on order!
#17
Hmm, well since my boomtubes don't have your typical drone (which sounds like MMMMMMMMM) like stingers, etc do anyway it's hard for me to say. It is louder all over; idle, crusie, WOT, ....
I thought I remember reading how some say drone was decreased with high flows or O/R but I can't remember for sure.
#18
Not trying to jack the thread, the OP could use the info also.
I am looking at the pypes cut and clamp x pipe ( http://www.americanmuscle.com/pypes-0509-v8-xpipe.html ). Is there anything to be gained from this if it is left behind the stock cats? I am guessing the only difference would be the sound. I know I should look at the high flow cats, but I cant swing the price right now and thought this might be a decent alternative.
I am looking at the pypes cut and clamp x pipe ( http://www.americanmuscle.com/pypes-0509-v8-xpipe.html ). Is there anything to be gained from this if it is left behind the stock cats? I am guessing the only difference would be the sound. I know I should look at the high flow cats, but I cant swing the price right now and thought this might be a decent alternative.
#19
I have the FRPP version of the Borla Stingers, they do drone. But it doesnt bother me. My old roommate has a 08 Shelby GT with the GTAs and a X pipe, and it is personally a little to raspy for my taste. But he really likes it, and it doesnt drone. In the next 2 weeks i should have my Pypes longtube headers, and catted H pipe installed. From what i can tell, and from talking to Brenspeed the Pypes headers are almost identical to the Kooks for half the price. I would also like to note that the sound of my exhaust may sound different due to im also going to have the Comp XFI NSR Stage 2 cams installed at the same time. But i will post a video for those who would like to hear it.
bluovalguy:
As far as the bolt on X pipe, you may see a very small gain, but it is mostly for sound.
bluovalguy:
As far as the bolt on X pipe, you may see a very small gain, but it is mostly for sound.
Last edited by moburto07GT; 10-02-2009 at 03:10 AM.