Blacksmoke

Here is an article in 5.0 magazine.
According to this... the new 5.0 CANNOT stand forced induction...

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...es_engine.html
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"Like current Mustang GT rods, Coyote connecting rods are forged from powdered metal. Optimized for reduced weight and redesigned for uniform bearing loads around the big end, the Coyote rod eliminates the 4.6 rod's balance pad. These rods are plenty strong for stock rpm and power but will not survive forced induction."
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But then later it says this in on that same page.
(by the way I am getting these from the little picture captions at the bottom)
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The coyote damper is a traditional two-piece, single-elastomer design. Most telling are the dual sheaves on an engine with nothing more than a water pump, alternator, and air conditioning compressor. Currently the inner sheave is used for the AC and the outer sheave for everything else. But it's obvious to us that the inner sheave is for a belt-driven supercharger at some future date. There is no provision for power steering as Ford has switched to electric power-assisted steering.
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Why the hell would they say this if they said the engine could not take F.I.?

THEN they go on to say this...
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"Most ominously, supercharging will require a stronger forged rod, so we expect to see those, and, no doubt, a short-block in the FRPP catalog before long. This adds a whole new layer of commitment to bolting a blower on a Coyote. We'll have to let the brave among us prove the standard Coyote rods' boost tolerance. For those planning on a rod-exchanging teardown right away, Ford says the Cobra's Manley forged rod will just fit, but you must be careful. No word on how to package a forged piston and rod combination."
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Sounds like they are trying to say it can't take it... but wait... lets wait for some people to try it and see if it can take it....

WHAT THE HELL are they trying to say?
First they say the standard rods on it CAN NOT take F.I., then they say we will have to wait to see how much boost they can take? WHAT THE HELL?

Well people?
Let's hear it...

timmbo

Wow. Love my 06 and its rear end with supercharge capability. Two reasons now to never want an 11'. Rear end styling and expensive cost to be supercharged. Provided the above info is "true".

americaniron

The Shelby GT350 is supercharged, and I don't think that they do anything to beef up the internals. I don't know that for sure though.

Torch Red GT

It probably does have internal work since it cost 30k on top of a 5.0 gt.

deekum1627

i have a artical about the new gt350 and i dont remeber ready about the interanls bout ill check it out later for you guys.

i just quickly look at that artical i have and it just say that the new 5.0 has a ford racing whipple supercharger, so i dont think there is anything done on the inside

Blacksmoke

They also say this at the beginning...

"Few hard points were fixed at the Coyote's conception, but a handful were quickly set. The new engine's point of departure was the existing 4.6 modular architecture. It would not use EcoBoost- Ford's combination of direct fuel injection and turbocharging-but it would be engineered to withstand forced induction and to package EcoBoost fuel injectors in the future."


Again... WHAT THE HELL?
What are they saying? Are they saying it CAN or CANNNOT take F.I.?

It seems like mixed messages in this article!

Blacksmoke

Where are you getting this article?

Edit: Shelby is saying it has a SC.

So are we saying that 5.0 magazine... one of the most accredited Mustang magazines there is got it way wrong?
Or is Shelby leaving out internal work?

(btw here is Shelby's official site for the GT350..)
http://www.shelbyautos.com/vehicles/2011GT350.asp

Blacksmoke

Oh and here is Shelby's spec sheet for the GT350.
Is anyone reading here anything on internal work?

http://www.gt350.shelbyamerican.com/..._SpecSheet.pdf


Did 5.0 mag get is WRONG?

JonStolo

I think what you are witnessing in that 5.0 Magazine article Blacksmoke is what's known as the political approach. They are trying to cover all their bases and make everyone happy by letting people read into it and hear what they "want" to hear. That way, no matter how it turns out, they can claim they were right.

replica

Well, if it has powdered metal for internals, and it's a high compression motor, I don't suspect it will like much boost.