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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 07:33 AM
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I will be the first to admit that I bought the mods because I waste money. I will never put my car on a track. Looking back on it, I wish I would not have even put the CAI and tune. I honestly have not seen enough of a difference to justify the cost. Plus if something goes wrong, I will have to pull the CAI and tune to get it fixed and pray that the local dealership does not give me any crap.

I should have saved my money on the mods and bought the commercial stove for my kitchen that I have always wanted! And now I am looking at buying new wheels (black rtr's) for my car when the 19" wheels I have are beautiful! What the hell am I doing??????
Old Nov 24, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by forensicsteve
All that physics stuff is fine, but I couldn't care less about the theory. I leave the build to the builder and the tuning to the tuner. As far as the car is concerned, the only printed material I am interested in reading is the time slip.
Seems to me if you're going to be interested in reading still better time slips, it'd help to know a little about what the builder and the tuner have to deal with and be able to talk their language at least a little. I wouldn't want to be leaving some performance on the table just because I couldn't adequately communicate something that I had observed as a driver to the guy who was going to have to do something about it. Stuff tends to get lost when there's much translation involved.

For a lot of the rest of us, we ARE the builders and the tuners, and this can be applied to any of the ways that people choose to modify their cars, not just racing. We can choose to mod more like using a sniper rifle (one bullet, one kill) or a sawed-off shotgun (lots of pellets, one of 'em ought to get the job done).


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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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I agree with you Norm, but for me with car staying at the builders and 100 miles away, I don't get involved in any of it. Anyway been driving over 40 years and never torqued a wrench. I will be racing the car at modest boost (10-15lbs) and have a younger, way more experienced racer (with requisite race license) going for the ETs under high boost (25-27lbs). He is a master mechanic and discusses datalog info etc after each pass with tuner. It leave it to the pros.

I do however appreciate science, just not interested in this one.
Old Nov 24, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by forensicsteve
I agree with you Norm, but for me with car staying at the builders and 100 miles away, I don't get involved in any of it. Anyway been driving over 40 years and never torqued a wrench. I will be racing the car at modest boost (10-15lbs) and have a younger, way more experienced racer (with requisite race license) going for the ETs under high boost (25-27lbs). He is a master mechanic and discusses datalog info etc after each pass with tuner. It leave it to the pros.

I do however appreciate science, just not interested in this one.
So, someone else builds it, someone else tunes it, and someone else drives. And you own it because...? You know, I could really use someone to pay for a Mustang for me. I'll wrench on it, tune it and drive it, and you can pay for the car and the parts. Sound good?
Old Nov 24, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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Agreed. IF someone paid for it and makes me drive the car, I would have no problems at all doing the shop work and racing the car, even if none of it is mine.

What a damn lucky guy
Old Nov 24, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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So, someone else builds it, someone else tunes it, and someone else drives. And you own it because...?

For most folk that I know that are into heavy builds like this one.....it takes a team effort and even some form of sponsorship...and not every racehorse owner is also the jockey. I'll race it at the level commensurate with my skills and waining reflexes, but the car cannot reach its full potential with me as driver. Being part of the team is great and that's enough.
Old Nov 24, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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I used to be a "mod" guy myself...but as I've gotten older I have less of a craving for it. I bought the mustang as my first "mod-less" car since it has 400 + hp stock and a well crafted suspension. This may be the first car I feel no need whatsoever to "mod"
Old Nov 24, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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I've set for myself a goal a long time ago. I am yet to achieve it. Prior to owning my car I knew exactly what I wanted it to like, including the wheels tires and paint. I don't succomb to the pressure of others on forums like this and never even knew they existed prior to owning my car. But rather, I succomb to to my type A personality that settles for nothing less than what i consider "finished" "Complete" satisfied. WIll it ever be there? It almost is. I have the motor, skills, knowledge and expereince to pilot my car now. I lack a really good built auto tranny. Someday . . . . .

I will be brutally honest. There are many on here who do not do the work on their own cars or who depend on someone else's opinion due to a lack of experience. That is absolutely okay. A good example of this is Blacksmoke. He's seems to be literally car retarded amd ignorant of the basic building blocks of a functioning car (please don't take this in a bad way because I was once confused on what a cam shaft even did. By no means am I saying I am an SAE certified mechanic either.). But at the same time, his passion is what every single one of us experience and what we all feel now. All of us started out knowing nothing and needed someone to ask those wierd questions, father/uncles/brothers/neighbors/forums. But eventually, we learned, we studied and through trial and error, found what works. Blacksmoke (or anyone else who is just learning) will quickly learn the best way to learn something is through expereince and screwing stuff up, causing you to fix it right the second time.

Three cheers to Mustangforums.com for giving me and every other moddaddict a place to feed their addiction.

I love this forum. (In a strictly non-homo kind of way)
Old Nov 25, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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I am in the same boat as Blacksmoke. I am not making any jumps yet for mods since I have only had my car since this past summer, and of course, I am in these forums reading up as much as possible on how to do things and what "seems" to work best. (I put "seems" in quotes because "what works" for one person might in reality totally suck for me.)

Anyway, there is a wealth of do-it-yourself mod instructions in here, I just found this do-it-yourself mod thread that even the search function refused to pull up:
https://mustangforums.com/forum/2005...56k-death.html

The instructions in this thread are exactly what I am looking for: detailed, includes very descriptive pics, and walks you through step by step that the instructions themselves might not do well at all.
Also, seeing pics of the actual mod in its finished placement confirms that the previous instructions are valid.
Old Nov 25, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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Blacksmoke and I have PM'd quite a bit. He seems to have a good sense of humor and the ability to laugh at himself. So I hope he doesn't take what I said above in the wrong way.



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