To those who have built 4.6's... A little help
#1
To those who have built 4.6's... A little help
So heres the deal. Im one month into my second deployment. Wife already gave to go ahead to spend a **** load of money on the stang. Im looking for a ball park of what i need to start looking for parts wise, and a general idea of cost of labor. Currently im running a vortech v3 non intercooled kit. Dyno tuned to 470whp (then down tuned to 440) by Fastlane Motorsports in NC. I plan on picking up the brenspeed B302, eather the Paxton air to air, or the vortech air to air, brenspeeds detroit rockers for supercharged aplications. And i am looking at pully swaps. I realy want to run between 16-18lbs of boost or what ever i need to get to high 5's low 600's. Any feedback or sujestions welcome, especialy those who have already built up. I want to start listing what i need for supporting mods. probably 60lb injectors, ditch the kb boost a pump and go gt500 or simular. Other then that i have no clue. i know im just about maxing my MAF, but i want to convert to blow thru and dump boost into the atmosphere. Any sujestions?
Last edited by chris09; 04-10-2011 at 09:25 PM.
#2
So heres the deal. Im one month into my second deployment. Wife already gave to go ahead to spend a **** load of money on the stang. Im looking for a ball park of what i need to start looking for parts wise, and a general idea of cost of labor. Currently im running a vortech v3 non intercooled kit. Dyno tuned to 470whp (then down tuned to 440) by Fastlane Motorsports in NC. I plan on picking up the brenspeed B302, eather the Paxton air to air, or the vortech air to air, brenspeeds detroit rockers for supercharged aplications. And i am looking at pully swaps. I realy want to run between 16-18lbs of boost or what ever i need to get to high 5's low 600's. Any feedback or sujestions welcome, especialy those who have already built up. I want to start listing what i need for supporting mods. probably 60lb injectors, ditch the kb boost a pump and go gt500 or simular. Other then that i have no clue. i know im just about maxing my MAF, but i want to convert to blow thru and dump boost into the atmosphere. Any sujestions?
KB Dual BAP and gt500 pumps
60# injectors
Clutch or convertor
Regular suspension mods
A very good tuner
boost gauge
wideband
#3
Well i already have some suspension mods. I do need some lca's though. I got a great tuner, and am running wideband an boost gauges already. so i need a fuel pump, injectors, and a clutch. got it. but i prefer air to air. simpler instal and no water to cook.
#4
damn, you're running 470whp on a NON-intercooled V3?? You must have an awesome tuner because that's about 100 more whp than your average V3 non-intercooled lulz
The V3 will only support up to 550whp, the Paxton 2200 H.O. can make the numbers you're looking to make.
I believe the air to air intercoolers can handle up to 800whp..
The V3 will only support up to 550whp, the Paxton 2200 H.O. can make the numbers you're looking to make.
I believe the air to air intercoolers can handle up to 800whp..
#5
No offense intended, but...
I've never understood why people put all this money into a 4.6L car, and not go straight to the Shelby. You have to spend all of this money to achieve 600 HP, and it's still not as reliable as the 5.4L is at 700 rwhp.
I've never understood why people put all this money into a 4.6L car, and not go straight to the Shelby. You have to spend all of this money to achieve 600 HP, and it's still not as reliable as the 5.4L is at 700 rwhp.
Last edited by Unleashedbeast; 04-11-2011 at 05:45 AM.
#6
damn, you're running 470whp on a NON-intercooled V3?? You must have an awesome tuner because that's about 100 more whp than your average V3 non-intercooled lulz
The V3 will only support up to 550whp, the Paxton 2200 H.O. can make the numbers you're looking to make.
I believe the air to air intercoolers can handle up to 800whp..
The V3 will only support up to 550whp, the Paxton 2200 H.O. can make the numbers you're looking to make.
I believe the air to air intercoolers can handle up to 800whp..
#7
none taken. i dont see how i will be less reliable if built right. plus when i got this car new, SEP 11 2008, i could afford it as an E-4 in germany. I got it as a platform to build off of as money became available. 29,000 out the door, put 20 down, paing 170 a month. im very happy with it thank you very much. and why have a heavy (by a small amount) iron 5.4 when i can have a fully built aluminum 5.0?
#8
Yes air/air is easier, but air/water tends to do a better job.
Good luck.
#9
It'll be as reliable as how you build it, plus the tune.
You will be able to make good power on the dyno with any intercooler. But being able to repeat the power is more important. At the power level you want and even higher PSI, you will suffer from high IATs and then suffer even more power loss when your computer pulls timing.
Yes air/air is easier, but air/water tends to do a better job.
Good luck.
Yes air/air is easier, but air/water tends to do a better job.
Good luck.
#10
well heres what i found just looking aroung.
".••We are used to seeing triple-digit air-charge temperatures when we are dealing with force-induction applications. Not so with Vortech's air-to-air intercooler in
place. This baby is really efficient at taking heat out of boost. It measures 24x13x3.5 inches and features 3-inch inlet and outlet tubes, and Vortech says it is capable
of supporting up to 900 hp. In our testing this intercooler tamed the boost so that blower discharge temps were only 15-19 degrees higher than the ambient temperatures
in the dyno room. That is crazy efficient on a stationary car. Imagine how well it does rolling down the road."
taken from a pdf file i found in an older 5.0 mag http://www.andersonfordmotorsport.co...-12.09-5.0.pdf
im still thinking air to air....but thats just me.
".••We are used to seeing triple-digit air-charge temperatures when we are dealing with force-induction applications. Not so with Vortech's air-to-air intercooler in
place. This baby is really efficient at taking heat out of boost. It measures 24x13x3.5 inches and features 3-inch inlet and outlet tubes, and Vortech says it is capable
of supporting up to 900 hp. In our testing this intercooler tamed the boost so that blower discharge temps were only 15-19 degrees higher than the ambient temperatures
in the dyno room. That is crazy efficient on a stationary car. Imagine how well it does rolling down the road."
taken from a pdf file i found in an older 5.0 mag http://www.andersonfordmotorsport.co...-12.09-5.0.pdf
im still thinking air to air....but thats just me.