My old man claims this......
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TIRES....TIRES.... TIRES....
That is the big difference. Cars back in the late 60's and early 70's where very fast. A lot of them with 450 actual crank hp and over 500lbft tq. But poly glass tires stood no chance to hooking them up.
I have a friend that has a 1970 Buick GSX Stage 1 that he bought brand new. He used to run it at the strip all the time and used to run low 12's with drag slicks. Im not so sure he didnt get into the 11's with is cam. (He still has this car, and yes i drool everytime i see it)
Regardless
Cars today are very very fast in stock form compared to back then, but in my honest opinion its the tires that make the cars today a sure bet.
That is the big difference. Cars back in the late 60's and early 70's where very fast. A lot of them with 450 actual crank hp and over 500lbft tq. But poly glass tires stood no chance to hooking them up.
I have a friend that has a 1970 Buick GSX Stage 1 that he bought brand new. He used to run it at the strip all the time and used to run low 12's with drag slicks. Im not so sure he didnt get into the 11's with is cam. (He still has this car, and yes i drool everytime i see it)
Regardless
Cars today are very very fast in stock form compared to back then, but in my honest opinion its the tires that make the cars today a sure bet.
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your pops is on crack & I mean that in a joking manner! lol.. Seriously though most of the muscle cars back then ran 13s & were considered quick. There were some cars like the 426 hemi cuda, the yenko 427 camaro & the 429Cobra jET Fast backs that were in the bottom 12s to high 11s depending on driver mod. However those cars were highly rare to see on the streets just like the KR GT500 Super Snake is or the Viper srt 10 or a ZR1 Corvette. Get the picture Im painting? Todays Mustangs are mid 12 cars to bottom 13s if your not a decent driver. Your Pops is just reliving his glory days. Nothing wrong with that. lol
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I'm 68 and I can tell you today's cars for the most part are faster and better. A few AFX type factory cars may have been fast but those sold to general public off the lot were NOT!
...and they were not pleasant to smell spewing fumes and polution all over. The smell of gas was sometimes quite noticeable in those 4 bbl carburated vihicles.
The old days just seemed better to us geezers 'cause we were younger.
...and they were not pleasant to smell spewing fumes and polution all over. The smell of gas was sometimes quite noticeable in those 4 bbl carburated vihicles.
The old days just seemed better to us geezers 'cause we were younger.
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For the most part, your Dad is wrong. Today's cars are faster and handle so much better than the cars of his day. I know this, because I am 65 years old. I lived through those days. I had a '69 Z-28 with factory 4:11 gears, as well as a '78 Trans Am with the TA Special engine in it and my '06 GT, in mostly stock condition, would run off and hide from either of those cars. We won't even talk about handling. Some of those classics are pretty cool, but I'll take the modern Hot Rods any time. They kick *** on regular gas and get 18 MPG.
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So my old man claims that the vehicles in his day would run the 1/4 faster than todays vehicles. Of course IM talking modded gt's and so on. He claims that his GTO would be much quicker than my vehicle which has a supercharger and gears. I think the only thing he ever talked about doing to his car was exhaust, 4 barrel carb, then of course the gear sequence in an H patern. I just cant imagine that a car like that would be able to beat a car like mine in the 1/4. Of course you have the drive mod but it sure would be interesting to see.
So back in the 60's and 70's what was considered a fast 1/4. My dad only street raced and never went to the track so he doesnt really know what he ran. I was just wondering what ur thoughts are on this subject. I have heard that if a guy ran 13 then that was considered fast during those times where I believe a fast street car now days is 11 second range.
Whats ur thoughts
So back in the 60's and 70's what was considered a fast 1/4. My dad only street raced and never went to the track so he doesnt really know what he ran. I was just wondering what ur thoughts are on this subject. I have heard that if a guy ran 13 then that was considered fast during those times where I believe a fast street car now days is 11 second range.
Whats ur thoughts
Today's 5.0 Coyote Mustang is quicker than any of the GT Mustang's that came out in the 60's. Today's Shelby GT500 is quicker than the GT500's of the 60's. LS1 Camaro's today are quicker than any factory Camaro in the 60's. The 427 Yenko's and COPO ones don't count either unless you want to compare today's tuner cars.
Yes, your dad is definitely stuck in the 60's. Your dad would have a heart attack if he saw what an SRT4 Neon or EVO would do to more than half of the cars during the 60's musclecar era.
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I grew up in the era of muscle cars - got my license in 1969 when I turned 16 and I always thought what we grew up with was quick. The typical muscle car in the 60's and 70's seemed quick - but compared to today's car there is a big difference. A late 60's GTO was considered to be very quick, but they were running 14's - quick for the day but today's cars are quicker.
Talking with a friend about his Shelby GT350 he was saying how it felt quick - and how stoked he was to finally get it to break into the 14's and he was considered to be one of the quickest cars at the track. A GT Mustang is running 13's, and the new 5.0 can run in the 12's right off the truck. One of my friends had a 1969 Mustang, bored, stroked, HUGE Holley 4 barrel with dual gas feeds, head and cam work - and we were lucky to get it in the low 14's. Seemed really quick at the time and in comparison it was.
Talking with a friend about his Shelby GT350 he was saying how it felt quick - and how stoked he was to finally get it to break into the 14's and he was considered to be one of the quickest cars at the track. A GT Mustang is running 13's, and the new 5.0 can run in the 12's right off the truck. One of my friends had a 1969 Mustang, bored, stroked, HUGE Holley 4 barrel with dual gas feeds, head and cam work - and we were lucky to get it in the low 14's. Seemed really quick at the time and in comparison it was.