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Old 07-07-2011, 05:54 PM
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Okay, so, if I want to push my speakers past the "limit", I want to know if I'm doing the right thing.

I have an aftermarket radio system that has the ability to totally over power my speakers.

It used to be that they'd pop when I pushed the volume past 35. Now, I kept running it at 34, and then it wouldn't pop till 40. Now I have it up to 45 with no problems.

Either I'm very lucky, there's a problem with my head unit, there's a problem with my speakers, or I've actually increased the tolerance of them.

Any thoughts? Thanks
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:28 PM
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Easy rule of thumb here.

If you turn the speakers up to the point where they sound terrible....your amplifier is creating distortion and will kill your speakers. At the "distortion" point, turn it down till it is loud, but sounds good. That's your limit.
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Originally Posted by Unleashedbeast
If you turn the speakers up to the point where they sound terrible....your amplifier is creating distortion and will kill your speakers. At the "distortion" point, turn it down till it is loud, but sounds good. That's your limit.


You can't increase the tolerance. Likely you've already blown 'em.

Pop = Bad, mmmkay?
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Originally Posted by wayne613


You can't increase the tolerance. Likely you've already blown 'em.

Pop = Bad, mmmkay?
No they still sound great
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No they still sound great
They don't necessarily sound craptacular right off should the coil be pushed too far, or an actual tear start.
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I actually have something like this too. If you don't mind the threadjack OP (sorry), I get this weird single pop when turning on the speakers, but only one pop at that time... Never again, and its only when turning it on.

Thoughts? Is it even a problem?
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Originally Posted by aaquib1992
I actually have something like this too. If you don't mind the threadjack OP (sorry), I get this weird single pop when turning on the speakers, but only one pop at that time... Never again, and its only when turning it on.

Thoughts? Is it even a problem?
My friend does audio systems all the time and says its fine. Mine does that usually.
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Originally Posted by aaquib1992
I actually have something like this too. If you don't mind the threadjack OP (sorry), I get this weird single pop when turning on the speakers, but only one pop at that time... Never again, and its only when turning it on.

Thoughts? Is it even a problem?
Bit different right at startup. This a "pop", or a "thump"? Thump in shaker 500/1000 indicates using 12v for the turn-on(s) on the factory sub-woofers, which use 5v in the 2005-2009's. Not good, but usually won't cause damage unless done for a long time.

If this is a non-shaker, and just an after-market head-unit, then is it something fairly new, happened when it was switched out, or did it do this before the radio was swapped? Some head-units will do this initially getting power on their audio circuit. Crappy design IMO, but in which case, nothing to worry about.

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Its more of a "thump", usually only when I have the volume kinda high and the music already playing when the speakers start up. Its the shaker 500 system.

Should I get it checked out? Thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by aaquib1992
Its more of a "thump", usually only when I have the volume kinda high and the music already playing when the speakers start up. Its the shaker 500 system.

Should I get it checked out? Thanks guys.
If it's not set for 5v turn on, this should occur regardless of the volume you start at.

My first guess would be the head-unit's audio circuit doing this if it only does this when the volume is up, and only at start-up. In which case, your speakers should be ok, and not much you can do about it save replacing the head-unit. Which might be an viable option if the head-unit is still under warranty, but that's about it. If it's the stock Faker 500 head-unit, then yer screwed.

This uniform, and only from the shaker door "subs"? If it's only from one speaker, then you might have an issue, otherwise it's one of the above.

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