Norm Peterson

Here's a link to a brief description.

Keep in mind that it's a Mitsubishi site, and as such it carries an agenda and is therefore worded pretty carefully. It's heavy on the fancy sounding adjectives, and very light on actual tech.

I'm looking for a lot more detail and a lot less self-praise.


Norm

Locke_03

I didn’t give the wrong answer, I gave my answer.

Truth is your right I'm not a great drive nor do I pretend to be that’s why I leave my T/C on.

I had a bad motorcycle accident few years back(9 screws and a plate) so I really don’t push my limits I'm happy just cruising for the most part.



Your right though about learning new things, at some point I would love to enroll in one of the many driving schools we have here So Cal.

Locke_03

Its been a while but I believe I read the document on the top gear website somewhere I'm going to look for it though, it sounds like you know a lot about cars so maybe you can understand it.

wayne613

One of the best, easiest, cheapest, and early on mods to my 'stang was to turn that damn thing off by default.

$2 12v relay
$2 fuse tap
tap the TCS line, run wire, done.

Still leaves it usable should you or anyone else wish to use it, but defaults to off on start-up without fail.

Blacksmoke

Ouch! glad to hear you were o.k. though and the accident was not worse.
I guess TC can def be a good thing to have.
But if you depend on it... it is a BAD thing to have.
Depending on yourself driving safely foremost is always the best policy.
Although you do want to drive a safe automobile no doubt lol.

Locke_03

Trust me after that accident i dont mess around, i think i gave the wrong impression with my post.

Just thank GOD i was in the Navy, I went through a barb wire fence and off a cliff so I got life flighted out there and went straight to surgery, they say I lost a lot of blood, short story is I almost died for sure. The scariest part was the medical bills can you say $40 grand just for the life flight!!!!! The Navy saved me on that one, had I not been in I would still be paying for the bills!!!

Yeh I'm good now thanks.

Locke_03

here a couple of links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_S-AWC

http://www.scribd.com/doc/48640233/2...ution-Overview

It's not exactly what i read before(the orginal one i saw was almost 12 pages, it may not all have been about the s awc though) but the wiki article seems to be ringing a few bells, enjoy the read.

Norm Peterson

Let me suggest taking in an autocross or two. You get to drive your own car and learn how it behaves at speeds essentially the same as much of your street driving. You'll nearly always be in 2nd gear, which will teach you about getting smooth about adding throttle as you exit turns.

I am sorry to hear about your bike accident, made me cringe to read it. I used to ride, up until I tore up both knees in some other activity. Glad to hear you're OK.



I hope you'll pardon my occasional bluntness, which has the greatest tendency to show up in discussions involving various driver "assistances". The way I see it, they're either going to step in when I'm not expecting them to and give me a surprise that I don't need, or they're going to keep me from learning to recognize when I'm getting a bit too close to my limits.

In the first case, if a passenger ever actively interfered with my driving by grabbing the steering wheel or the P-brake - they'd probably get backhanded and tossed out of the car as soon as I could get it stopped.

In the second, if I've botched my corner entry or the line through it, I want the car to let me know that I've screwed up some (IOW, if it "felt" like I did it wrong, I probably did do it wrong). What I DON'T want is for some electronic nanny to make me feel like a hero for pulling off some nutty piece of clumsiness anyway. In the long run, that's just trouble looking for a time & place to land.


Hell, I don't even like clutch interlock switches.


Norm

Norm Peterson

Thanks for the links. The wiki one comes up OK here on the office computer, but the other one comes up all distorted so I'll have to try later at home.


Some of the developments that are beyond basic TC and ESC are pretty scary to people like me who learned to drive on cars that had no mechanical/hydraulic/electronic assistances whatsoever (not even power assisted steering or brakes). Expect to see some threads about something called "Active Nibble Control" once people start having trouble with it (it's tied in with the newer EPAS systems, and I think there already is a TSB for the GT500's concerning it). I even have a paper that discusses GPS in the context of stability control system uses. (now where did I put those wire cutters ).


Norm

Norm Peterson

I was able to get to this from Locke's wiki link. I haven't had a chance to do any more than scan through it very quickly. Your call as far as 'interesting' goes.

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/cor...006/18e_03.pdf


Norm