do you think they should pay??
11-06-2011, 05:09 PM
#11
Agreed. As to what Young Gun said...if I was a business owner and you came in and threatened me, telling me you were going to post all over about how bad my business is when it could be OP's fault...I'd punch ya in the face.
11-06-2011, 07:23 PM
#13
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Location: Panama City, FL
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Proper approach helps but I doubt they will replace your tires....maybe a free alignment.
On the other end of things.....driving for 6000 miles without checking the tires for wear seems odd, especially after having suspension work done. Also, the handling of the car would have been terrible with that bad of an alignment. And.....I would almost say the front wheels would have had to show an odd angle just sitting still pointed straight ahead.
Owner error/neglect does not mean shop pays. Seems like it should have been back to them in just a couple of driving times.
Of course, this is my opinion without seeing the car.....
On the other end of things.....driving for 6000 miles without checking the tires for wear seems odd, especially after having suspension work done. Also, the handling of the car would have been terrible with that bad of an alignment. And.....I would almost say the front wheels would have had to show an odd angle just sitting still pointed straight ahead.
Owner error/neglect does not mean shop pays. Seems like it should have been back to them in just a couple of driving times.
Of course, this is my opinion without seeing the car.....
11-06-2011, 10:50 PM
#14
No, they shouldn't.
You drove it that way until the tires were ruined. That didn't happen in minutes, hours or even days. It took much longer, which tells me you ignored obvious tire wear until too late. I would take that to also mean you didn't call their attention to the issue until too late.
The shop might owe you a realignment, but they didn't ruin your tires. Your failure to monitor and act on tire wear ruined your tires.
You drove it that way until the tires were ruined. That didn't happen in minutes, hours or even days. It took much longer, which tells me you ignored obvious tire wear until too late. I would take that to also mean you didn't call their attention to the issue until too late.
The shop might owe you a realignment, but they didn't ruin your tires. Your failure to monitor and act on tire wear ruined your tires.
11-07-2011, 03:48 PM
#16
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Midwest
Posts: 125
As a repair shop employee, I would consider the rationale of the customer in this particular case and their value as a customer (not necessarily or only what he spends).
If this was a reasonable customer asking for assistance, I would clearly participate in the repair. We could point fingers at one another, but what does this accomplish? With this situation, I might consider participating with a portion of the labor or a
dollar amount towards having this repair performed in my shop.
The sad part of it all is their are so many "mooches" and people who think that they should not pay for anything -OR- the "ever since you changed my oil, the bulb in my living room lamp burned out" -OR- "the internet made me a technician" syndromes.
And the saddest of this all is that there are way to many of the latter and not enough of the former.....
If this was a reasonable customer asking for assistance, I would clearly participate in the repair. We could point fingers at one another, but what does this accomplish? With this situation, I might consider participating with a portion of the labor or a
dollar amount towards having this repair performed in my shop.
The sad part of it all is their are so many "mooches" and people who think that they should not pay for anything -OR- the "ever since you changed my oil, the bulb in my living room lamp burned out" -OR- "the internet made me a technician" syndromes.
And the saddest of this all is that there are way to many of the latter and not enough of the former.....
11-08-2011, 07:13 AM
#18
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NJ
Posts: 181
Proper approach helps but I doubt they will replace your tires....maybe a free alignment.
On the other end of things.....driving for 6000 miles without checking the tires for wear seems odd, especially after having suspension work done. Also, the handling of the car would have been terrible with that bad of an alignment. And.....I would almost say the front wheels would have had to show an odd angle just sitting still pointed straight ahead.
Owner error/neglect does not mean shop pays. Seems like it should have been back to them in just a couple of driving times.
Of course, this is my opinion without seeing the car.....
On the other end of things.....driving for 6000 miles without checking the tires for wear seems odd, especially after having suspension work done. Also, the handling of the car would have been terrible with that bad of an alignment. And.....I would almost say the front wheels would have had to show an odd angle just sitting still pointed straight ahead.
Owner error/neglect does not mean shop pays. Seems like it should have been back to them in just a couple of driving times.
Of course, this is my opinion without seeing the car.....
11-08-2011, 07:28 AM
#19
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 456
Judging by the ride height of your car, I'd be surprised if they could even get your camber back to stock specs... may need to move the ride height up a bit. My car that's lowered 1" in the front has -1.5 degrees with stock strut mounts, which is right on the edge of factory recommended specs.
11-09-2011, 10:00 AM
#20
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 960
If a tire is toed out (which wears the inside of a tire), the other will toe out equally to compensate so that you go down the road straight.
Yes, the alignment is out whack.
The added weight of my Procharger set-up altered the camber. I adjusted the toe inwards, ever so slightly. problem solved.
Last edited by SCCAGT; 11-09-2011 at 10:02 AM.