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Old 05-24-2012, 01:17 AM
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IMO, C&L makes a great cold air. With a Bama tune you'll definitely feel the difference. And welcome to MF!
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Order_66
i called my dealership and spoke to the service manager and he said that an intake and tune would not void the warranty. i also wouldnt be driving around town in race mode...but i think, where else am i going to get 40+ bolt on HP for under $700?
I have a 3.7. I went to the dealer to see if they had any performance parts so I would not void warranty if they did the work. He pulled out the catalog that had the performance parts. He said there were not many things in THEIR catalog that wouldn't void the warranty. So I went with the Airaid CAI as it didn't need a tune. I haven't noticed any MPG increase as I have been a little heavy on it to hear the sound.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:36 AM
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from my research, and from what the service manager told me, ford would have to prove that your part or mod caused the malfunction. how can a cold air intake cause a malfunction when the coyote uses it stock from the factory on the Shelby and Boss?

correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure both of those have steeda CAI on them.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:39 AM
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The boss has the upgraded intake manifold but uses the same air box as the GT. The Shelby does have a CAI attached to the supercharger.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Order_66
hey guys

im a new member here and while i have no plans to take my car to the impressive heights some of you have taken your mustangs to, i do want to upgrade it. I have 2 questions that id love to get some help on. I am kinda in a time sensitive situation because my buddy who can help install this stuff is only here for another week. yes, i am a clueless buffoon when it comes to using tools of any kind, whatsoever. dont judge me. lol.

1) should i allow more of a break in period for the car before doing CAI and a BAMA tune? i have 3200 miles on it.
2) which is the best choice for intake. Airaid, JTL, C&L or Steeda?

right now im running stock. plan on doing exhaust AFTER CAI.

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Welcome to MF! This place is a really good resource, so just read up and in no time you'll be hooked to modding!

As for adding a tune to the car before it's broken in, that's not a huge concern. Every Mustang that we buy hits the track within the first 250 miles of its life and gets modded usually within a day or two of that. The car will make a little bit more power as you drive it and it breaks in, but adding aftermarket mods can be done whenever you're ready!

Intake choice, you really can't go wrong with any of the options that you mentioned. In my opinion, as long as it's a roto-moulded plastic intake tube with a high flow filter and a good heat shield that re-uses the factory cool air ducting, you're in great shape! All of the CAI's in your post above meet those requirements and make almost identical horsepower when you test them back-to-back on the dyno. They're all great quality construction and fitment, so you won't have any issues down the road.

Bama tunes are built and tested in-house on our own Dynojet 224xLC dyno with over 15 test Mustangs that we own, as well as over 30 employee Mustangs. We're constantly pushing our Mustangs to the limit on the track, the street and the dyno to make sure that the tunes that we're sending you are proven, powerful and consistent.

If you have any questions at all about horsepower/torque gains or specific things that Bama changes in the tune, give us a shout! Our Bama Performance tuning specialists are here in the building Monday-Friday from 9AM-5:30PM EST and Saturday 10AM-3PM EST. You can hit them up directly at 888.226.9764 and they'll get you squared away!

Let me know if there's any more questions that you have or anything else that you need!

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Old 05-24-2012, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jcieutat
You are gonna get a whole lot of different opinions on this one. On my previous Mustang (2010 GT), I went with the C&L / Bama tune combo. The tune I liked but I feel the CAI is a waste of money. I personally would just get the tune and put the rest of the money towards an exhaust or suspension. If the CAI cone filters were that great, Ford would have put it on there to begin with. These companies market these things as if they are gonna totally transform your car. They do not.... Just my opinion on the matter.
Come again?

OEM's don't put on cone filters because they have federal (EPA and DOT) intake noise regulations that they have to meet, which can't be done with a high flow intake and cone filter. Hence panel filters, air boxes, air straighteners, Heimholtz resonators and all sorts of other gimmicks. And on top of that they have to make everything reliable, durable and easily serviceable. So...yeah, kinda obvious why they don't use them.
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Old 05-24-2012, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Order_66
from my research, and from what the service manager told me, ford would have to prove that your part or mod caused the malfunction. how can a cold air intake cause a malfunction when the coyote uses it stock from the factory on the Shelby and Boss?

correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure both of those have steeda CAI on them.
Per the Magnuson-Moss act of 1975 a Dealer must provide proof that any aftermarket part installed on the car is the cause of the malfunction. I haven't heard of anything other than the #8 cyl. going wrong in the Coyote (but I also haven't looked too hard). If that issue worries you I recommend a Bama tune because they warrant your engine for that. Although, I haven't seen anyone with a Steeda tune have the #8 issue. Weigh the options, do whats best for you.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ghunt
Come again?

OEM's don't put on cone filters because they have federal (EPA and DOT) intake noise regulations that they have to meet, which can't be done with a high flow intake and cone filter. Hence panel filters, air boxes, air straighteners, Heimholtz resonators and all sorts of other gimmicks. And on top of that they have to make everything reliable, durable and easily serviceable. So...yeah, kinda obvious why they don't use them.
The OEM GT500 does come with one that is accompanied by a SUPERCHARGER! Maybe the SC needs alot more airflow!

I can only speak from MY personal experience here. I had the C&L CAI and Bama tune on my 2010 GT. I tried all 3 tunes with the correct accompanying fuel octanes. I then removed the CAI and had them send me tunes without it. I felt NO difference whatsoever. I am just being honest here. People want to jump out and buy these items thinking they are going to get get all kinds of crazy horsepower when the tune is what gives the horsepower. I was one of them! Then you have to deal with cleaning and properly oiling the filter which can be a task as well. If you over oil it, your car will die on you constantly.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jcieutat
The OEM GT500 does come with one that is accompanied by a SUPERCHARGER! Maybe the SC needs alot more airflow!

I can only speak from MY personal experience here. I had the C&L CAI and Bama tune on my 2010 GT. I tried all 3 tunes with the correct accompanying fuel octanes. I then removed the CAI and had them send me tunes without it. I felt NO difference whatsoever. I am just being honest here. People want to jump out and buy these items thinking they are going to get get all kinds of crazy horsepower when the tune is what gives the horsepower. I was one of them! Then you have to deal with cleaning and properly oiling the filter which can be a task as well. If you over oil it, your car will die on you constantly.
isnt it possible that the CAI makes the engine work less (more efficient) to achieve the same output? isnt that alone reason enough to do the mod?

is oiling these CAI just like oiling a drop in K&N? or is it more involved than washing it, letting it dry and apply the oil?
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackGT45th
Per the Magnuson-Moss act of 1975 a Dealer must provide proof that any aftermarket part installed on the car is the cause of the malfunction. I haven't heard of anything other than the #8 cyl. going wrong in the Coyote (but I also haven't looked too hard). If that issue worries you I recommend a Bama tune because they warrant your engine for that. Although, I haven't seen anyone with a Steeda tune have the #8 issue. Weigh the options, do whats best for you.
so the ONLY people with the #8 failure are users of the BAMA tune??
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