Thinking aloud. A guy almost ready to pull the trigger...
#12
Thanks for the reply Stangs-r-me. I too drive on the freeway a fair amount, with about 20 of my 40 mile round trip being on a 70mph Interstate. Tell me, what does 6th hover at when you are doing 75mph? I had a cheat sheet that said the 2.73 would be running at about 1800 RPM at 75, with a 3.31 being at 2150 at 75mph. Is that what you are seeing? I would have paid attention more on the test drives, but was trying to soak in too many other things. Since your driving sounds similar to mine, what have you been getting with the MPGs? (just a guess is fine)
#13
I've got the 2.73's with M/T and these gears are just fine off the line.
The only time I can see where the 3.31's (or lower) are any real benefit is when going through a sharp turn where you downshift into 2nd and then power out of the turn. Here I feel the 2.73's are a bit doggy and a higher numerical rear gear would help.
If I did any autocrossing / road racing, the 2.73's would definitely have to go.
But instead I do a lot of highway driving and I like being under 2k RPM's at 75 MPH and this engine has enough power to do so. If Ford would have spaced the gears out a bit more on this 6 spd box so it was double O.D. (5th=0.70 & 6th=0.57), the 3.31's could be the "best of both worlds" rear gear ratio.
Doug
The only time I can see where the 3.31's (or lower) are any real benefit is when going through a sharp turn where you downshift into 2nd and then power out of the turn. Here I feel the 2.73's are a bit doggy and a higher numerical rear gear would help.
If I did any autocrossing / road racing, the 2.73's would definitely have to go.
But instead I do a lot of highway driving and I like being under 2k RPM's at 75 MPH and this engine has enough power to do so. If Ford would have spaced the gears out a bit more on this 6 spd box so it was double O.D. (5th=0.70 & 6th=0.57), the 3.31's could be the "best of both worlds" rear gear ratio.
Doug
#14
MrSandman, you would have made my decision a lot easier if you said you hated your glass top, and didn't like the color. :-)
#15
as far as the glass roof my dad just got his in his new 5.0 and it is pretty kick ***
only problem is that it was hard to find his car with all the options he wanted (brembo, 3.73 gears, comfort) with the glass roof since that seemed to be the deal breaker
only problem is that it was hard to find his car with all the options he wanted (brembo, 3.73 gears, comfort) with the glass roof since that seemed to be the deal breaker
#16
Thanks for the reply Stangs-r-me. I too drive on the freeway a fair amount, with about 20 of my 40 mile round trip being on a 70mph Interstate. Tell me, what does 6th hover at when you are doing 75mph? I had a cheat sheet that said the 2.73 would be running at about 1800 RPM at 75, with a 3.31 being at 2150 at 75mph. Is that what you are seeing? I would have paid attention more on the test drives, but was trying to soak in too many other things. Since your driving sounds similar to mine, what have you been getting with the MPGs? (just a guess is fine)
#17
Thanks for the reply Stangs-r-me. I too drive on the freeway a fair amount, with about 20 of my 40 mile round trip being on a 70mph Interstate. Tell me, what does 6th hover at when you are doing 75mph? I had a cheat sheet that said the 2.73 would be running at about 1800 RPM at 75, with a 3.31 being at 2150 at 75mph. Is that what you are seeing? I would have paid attention more on the test drives, but was trying to soak in too many other things. Since your driving sounds similar to mine, what have you been getting with the MPGs? (just a guess is fine)
1827 RPM w/ 2.73 (& 2211 RPM w/ 3.31)
My tach reads under 2000, but seems closer to 2000 than 1750. I'm going to have to put it into "engineering test mode" (a digital tach is one of 63 different displays) then go out and lock the cruise at 75 and see what that reads digitally.
My average MPG's over the 16,000 miles diven since May is just under 30. Worst mileage I've gotten on a tank was around 21 MPG ... best was 33.97 MPG.
My MPG numbers are all hand calculated, the MPG display is typically 1-2 GPM less at fill up.
Doug
Last edited by stangs-R-me; 02-05-2011 at 07:28 AM.
#18
Looks like next Friday will be decision day for me. I waffle between the two every 5 minutes or so. I almost wish one of them would sell to make the decision for me. My plan is to go to the dealer that has the blue pony with glass roof and 2.73's to give 'er another look and test drive then trust my gut from there. I think since the last test drive was with the gray mca perf pkg, thats the best approach.
Question for all of you ex car salesmen though. When the dealer says they can get you any car from any lot, it seems to me that a guy still has the best leverage on the car that is on there lot, no? The reason I ask is that the dealer with the gray one is one of those 'no dicker sticker' places. sorry Charlie, I want to dicker. :-)
Question for all of you ex car salesmen though. When the dealer says they can get you any car from any lot, it seems to me that a guy still has the best leverage on the car that is on there lot, no? The reason I ask is that the dealer with the gray one is one of those 'no dicker sticker' places. sorry Charlie, I want to dicker. :-)
#19
Looks like next Friday will be decision day for me. I waffle between the two every 5 minutes or so. I almost wish one of them would sell to make the decision for me. My plan is to go to the dealer that has the blue pony with glass roof and 2.73's to give 'er another look and test drive then trust my gut from there. I think since the last test drive was with the gray mca perf pkg, thats the best approach.
Question for all of you ex car salesmen though. When the dealer says they can get you any car from any lot, it seems to me that a guy still has the best leverage on the car that is on there lot, no? The reason I ask is that the dealer with the gray one is one of those 'no dicker sticker' places. sorry Charlie, I want to dicker. :-)
Question for all of you ex car salesmen though. When the dealer says they can get you any car from any lot, it seems to me that a guy still has the best leverage on the car that is on there lot, no? The reason I ask is that the dealer with the gray one is one of those 'no dicker sticker' places. sorry Charlie, I want to dicker. :-)
#20
I have 3.31 gears with auto. when passing at 55-65 by what it does, I would of been unhappy with 2.73 gears. probably at that speed 3.55 would be better. but for a 6 its ok. I have a hhr ss-turbo 4 cyl about the same performance wise.