so1o2k3

When you guys say slap a blower on, do you automatically assume that he will spend all the money to strengthen the bottom end, get machine jobs on the heads, lower compression, etc.? And what are all the necessary thing you need to do when you s/c your engine?

ShadowDrake

The cams are going to cost him as much as the blower does, he has a DOHC setup, so he needs four cams. Then when you add on head work, the blower will be cheaper.

You don't need to do anything except get it re-tuned when you supercharge your engine. Most kits come with everything you need... The fuel system and ignition system needs upgrading but the supercharger kits will come with the upgrades in most cases. If you run under 9 lbs of boost as a general rule, you will be just fine. You'll be at around 380-410 RWHP. If you want more, or want to up your boost, you need to get a built short block... after that your limit is what the new short block will take.

06mustang88

the mach's have 10:1 compression ratio i believe (correct me if i'm wrong). the ideal compression for a s/c is about 9:1. if you lower your compression and run 9 psi of boost, you will have an amazing machine.

tripsevn7

even with the 10.1 compression, the intercooled 4v will make great power and with a good tune and correct a/f will last a long, long time assuming you stay below 10 lbs of boost imo

there are a lot of s/c ed mach ones and 99 cobras running around out there

tripsevn7

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...s/0311mm_mach/

http://www.alternativeauto.com/water...1_vortech.html

http://www.rpmoutlet.com/mach1ati.htm


http://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/...roducts_id=955


just a few places to look at

dlazrael

1) Mach 1's have 10.1:1 C/R Cast pistons and rods, MT's have forged cobra crank, AT are cast.
2) ATI Procharger has an actual kit for the mach1, that incorporates the shaker intake.- Kit is around $4700 new
3) You can put a roots blower on it, but the functionality of the shaker is comprimised. There is a post somewhere on mach1registry.com that shows it, the guy bolted the shaker too the hood, and ran a small bracket or something that still allows for the "shake".
4)Heads - Just pnp the stock heads, more effective, unless your getting stage 2 or 3 heads. Those are around $2400
5)Cams - worth it no matter what your application, s/c, nitrous, turbo, or n/a, they've got grinds for all of em. The average price is $1,095(I think that's VTs cost) to $1600 (Steeda's) for all 4.
6)Forged rotating assy - A std bore is around $2300, (dss racing). But if you're gonna change it, why not bore over? DSS has a forged rotating assy for a MODular 302(using stock block, bored 0.030 over), for $2799 balanced internally.(pistons, rods, rings, crank)

9psi or less, even on stock pistons will yeild alot of power, and as everyone knows, a s/c is more power, but regardless it will cost the same. (provided you do the work, or if you have someone who will do it cheaply...) Add labor in for heads/cams, then it become a lot more costly.... But a s/c is ultimately more bang for the buck (unless you get really high compression, race fuel only motor with really aggressive cams)

Oh, and a dyno tune is def req'd for either :-p

Hoppers04Gt

I thought that the 4v motor was forged. So couldn't you run more boost (over 9psi)?

ShadowDrake

Only the 03-04 Cobra motor.

Davojan59

i remember seeing a video of a mach 1 running a procharger at 8 psi pushing about 560 rwhp and that thing could go....oh yea with about 9 psi boost he'll be pushing way more than 410 rwhp cause im pushing 417 on a gt 2v motor and he has a 4v. But yea get the blower man.