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Jun 4, 2004 | 04:58 PM

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Birdieman4

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RE: C&L vs. Densecharger

Here's a question: If you did a C & L plenum without upgrading the throttlebody, would you even gain any hp? -Say on a stock 04 gt.
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Jun 4, 2004 | 05:06 PM

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RE: C&L vs. Densecharger

yes, even on an otherwise stock setup I'd say 4-5 hp

Jun 5, 2004 | 03:24 PM

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Jun 5, 2004 | 04:30 PM

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04mustang

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RE: C&L vs. Densecharger

for the c&l system u have the maf kit- the inlet pipe -TB and then the plenum.

MAF KIT AND INLET PIPE PACKAGE = $350

TB & PLENUM WILL BE ANOTHER $300 AND CHANGE

WHOLE INTAKE SYSTEM AROUND $700

Jun 5, 2004 | 05:18 PM

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RE: C&L vs. Densecharger

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yes, even on an otherwise stock setup I'd say 4-5 hp

Acutally the T/B makes almost no difference at all. I have seen a report on the C&L setup where they swapped in the MAM/inlet pipe/k&N, and gained like 15 HP or whatever they gained (can't remeber) then put a T/B on and only gained 3 more RWHP.

That was swapping from a stock 65 mm to a 75 MM

Jun 5, 2004 | 05:26 PM

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04mustang

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RE: C&L vs. Densecharger

i think the bigger TB change is for the plenum to work better. u prob do get 2hp off the TB i dont doubt it. the plenum is where the hp is. i would just change the plenum leave the TB alone. 160 bucks for 2hp nah i dont think its worth it buddy. especially on the newer stangs the TB is already 70 so changeing to 75 is not that big of a diff. but older stangs might benefit from the bigger TB. if your on a tight budget i say just get the plenum.

Jun 5, 2004 | 05:30 PM

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RE: C&L vs. Densecharger

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i think the bigger TB change is for the plenum to work better. u prob do get 2hp off the TB i dont doubt it. the plenum is where the hp is. i would just change the plenum leave the TB alone. 160 bucks for 2hp nah i dont think its worth it buddy. especially on the newer stangs the TB is already 70 so changeing to 75 is not that big of a diff. but older stangs might benefit from the bigger TB. if your on a tight budget i say just get the plenum.

This is what I was trying to say. Without the T/B you will see basically the same gains as with it (on either c&L or densecharger setup)