pro's and con's of gears
10-30-2006, 04:05 PM
#22
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RE: pro's and con's of gears
Watch out P, the gear zealots are going to come defend the holy 4.10 
Cruising 700 RPM lower in OD was worth it to me for the last (and first) highway trip I made. I think the 3.27 gear that's back there is more than enough... sure you'll have a bit more fun with a 4.10 but with the way the driving is around here, 3.27 is more than enough. When I pick up the terminator I'm keeping it's stock 3.55 too. Idle at 45 MPH is irresistable.
Cruising 700 RPM lower in OD was worth it to me for the last (and first) highway trip I made. I think the 3.27 gear that's back there is more than enough... sure you'll have a bit more fun with a 4.10 but with the way the driving is around here, 3.27 is more than enough. When I pick up the terminator I'm keeping it's stock 3.55 too. Idle at 45 MPH is irresistable.
10-30-2006, 04:14 PM
#23
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RE: pro's and con's of gears
Hey guys yea gears are a great mod, and one of the best. MM&FF said 3.73's are the all around "best" gear, but it's all entirely up to you. But also take into account that it IS RECCOMENDED to also get yourself a gear install kit, so that they may seat correctly, and the old gear kit will be worn to the old gears(3.27). Just some advice, cause thats what I'm doing.
10-30-2006, 04:18 PM
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RE: pro's and con's of gears
ORIGINAL: ShadowDrake
Watch out P, the gear zealots are going to come defend the holy 4.10
Cruising 700 RPM lower in OD was worth it to me for the last (and first) highway trip I made. I think the 3.27 gear that's back there is more than enough... sure you'll have a bit more fun with a 4.10 but with the way the driving is around here, 3.27 is more than enough. When I pick up the terminator I'm keeping it's stock 3.55 too. Idle at 45 MPH is irresistable.
Watch out P, the gear zealots are going to come defend the holy 4.10
Cruising 700 RPM lower in OD was worth it to me for the last (and first) highway trip I made. I think the 3.27 gear that's back there is more than enough... sure you'll have a bit more fun with a 4.10 but with the way the driving is around here, 3.27 is more than enough. When I pick up the terminator I'm keeping it's stock 3.55 too. Idle at 45 MPH is irresistable.
-P.
10-30-2006, 04:29 PM
#25
RE: pro's and con's of gears
ORIGINAL: P Zero
Pros of a 4.10 - IMO, none.
Cons - No first gear, worse gas milage, increased loss of control in poor weather conditions, more wear and tear on the motor and drivetrain as a whole, shorter tire life (as traction will become an issue witha 4.10).
-P.
Pros of a 4.10 - IMO, none.
Cons - No first gear, worse gas milage, increased loss of control in poor weather conditions, more wear and tear on the motor and drivetrain as a whole, shorter tire life (as traction will become an issue witha 4.10).
-P.
10-30-2006, 04:41 PM
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RE: pro's and con's of gears
P-
As far as your point on lack of traction-isn't that going to be an issue with any performance modification of any significant gain? I mean, without supporting suspension mods, and/or sticky tires, FI of any kind is going to create serious traction issues, regardless of gear.
As far as your point on lack of traction-isn't that going to be an issue with any performance modification of any significant gain? I mean, without supporting suspension mods, and/or sticky tires, FI of any kind is going to create serious traction issues, regardless of gear.
10-30-2006, 04:48 PM
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RE: pro's and con's of gears
ORIGINAL: mustangman02232
funny, my buddies 99 (t-45 not t-3650) had 4.10s in it, first gear, while short, was still there, gas milage, eh 21 on a 150 mile round trip, loss of control, learn how to drive
ORIGINAL: P Zero
Pros of a 4.10 - IMO, none.
Cons - No first gear, worse gas milage, increased loss of control in poor weather conditions, more wear and tear on the motor and drivetrain as a whole, shorter tire life (as traction will become an issue witha 4.10).
-P.
Pros of a 4.10 - IMO, none.
Cons - No first gear, worse gas milage, increased loss of control in poor weather conditions, more wear and tear on the motor and drivetrain as a whole, shorter tire life (as traction will become an issue witha 4.10).
-P.
In MA. what is your speed limit on the E-way? Here its 70, which only out of state people do, MI drivers usually drive faster than that, a 4.10 at 90 -100 youd be spinnin 4500 (just a guesstimate), I wanna see 21mpg @ 4500 rpm out of a v-8. And as this guy said he barely goes to the track and usually cruises at 85, 4.10 = poop at 85.
-P.
10-30-2006, 04:54 PM
#28
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RE: pro's and con's of gears
ORIGINAL: mustangman02232
funny, my buddies 99 (t-45 not t-3650) had 4.10s in it, first gear, while short, was still there, gas milage, eh 21 on a 150 mile round trip, loss of control, learn how to drive
funny, my buddies 99 (t-45 not t-3650) had 4.10s in it, first gear, while short, was still there, gas milage, eh 21 on a 150 mile round trip, loss of control, learn how to drive
Yeah, P, I thought it was fast over here on the west coast, when I was in detroit I was on 696 and doing around 100 and people were still flying past me [&:] It's nuts over there
10-30-2006, 05:01 PM
#29
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RE: pro's and con's of gears
ORIGINAL: P Zero
Dude, I knew how to drive before you were a gleam in your daddies eye. Im not saying that loss of control is inevitable but A LOT easier, I only said this because Ive known kids from HS, that wrecked their cars in the snow around here after they got crazy steep gears.
In MA. what is your speed limit on the E-way? Here its 70, which only out of state people do, MI drivers usually drive faster than that, a 4.10 at 90 -100 youd be spinnin 4500 (just a guesstimate), I wanna see 21mpg @ 4500 rpm out of a v-8. And as this guy said he barely goes to the track and usually cruises at 85, 4.10 = poop at 85.
-P.
ORIGINAL: mustangman02232
funny, my buddies 99 (t-45 not t-3650) had 4.10s in it, first gear, while short, was still there, gas milage, eh 21 on a 150 mile round trip, loss of control, learn how to drive
ORIGINAL: P Zero
Pros of a 4.10 - IMO, none.
Cons - No first gear, worse gas milage, increased loss of control in poor weather conditions, more wear and tear on the motor and drivetrain as a whole, shorter tire life (as traction will become an issue witha 4.10).
-P.
Pros of a 4.10 - IMO, none.
Cons - No first gear, worse gas milage, increased loss of control in poor weather conditions, more wear and tear on the motor and drivetrain as a whole, shorter tire life (as traction will become an issue witha 4.10).
-P.
In MA. what is your speed limit on the E-way? Here its 70, which only out of state people do, MI drivers usually drive faster than that, a 4.10 at 90 -100 youd be spinnin 4500 (just a guesstimate), I wanna see 21mpg @ 4500 rpm out of a v-8. And as this guy said he barely goes to the track and usually cruises at 85, 4.10 = poop at 85.
-P.
dont guesstimate, at 100 4.10s put you a 3600rpm.
i think 3.73s are best myself.
10-30-2006, 05:11 PM
#30
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RE: pro's and con's of gears
ORIGINAL: mustangman02232
funny, my buddies 99 (t-45 not t-3650) had 4.10s in it, first gear, while short, was still there, gas milage, eh 21 on a 150 mile round trip, loss of control, learn how to drive
ORIGINAL: P Zero
Pros of a 4.10 - IMO, none.
Cons - No first gear, worse gas milage, increased loss of control in poor weather conditions, more wear and tear on the motor and drivetrain as a whole, shorter tire life (as traction will become an issue witha 4.10).
-P.
Pros of a 4.10 - IMO, none.
Cons - No first gear, worse gas milage, increased loss of control in poor weather conditions, more wear and tear on the motor and drivetrain as a whole, shorter tire life (as traction will become an issue witha 4.10).
-P.
Our cars can actually spin in first gear without 4.10's.
At the track 4.10's wont benefit you that much unless you have drag radials.