203Mach1ne

Really the only performance upgrade on my Mach currently is the SLP LM1 catback system. I planned on installing a Mid-pipe and LT Headers in the future, but now I plan on only installing a mid-pipe, since headers are a bit of a stretch with my money situation...and I figure the midpipe will give you the same amount of power as the headers, in most cases I think?

How much more power do you get out of O/R than over high flow catted mids?

Also, what would you recommend, as I am strictly looking for performance gains?

Dan04COBRA

1hp, if you could something make a difference with 1hp on the street or track, it'd be amazing.

Pick your poison and be done with it.

David_K

wiat on the mid pipe till you do LT headers. if you do a mid pipe now you have to buy a new mid pipe (or modify yours) when you get LT headers

203Mach1ne

I think I'm just going with a midpipe, not a midpipe AND headers...
And was the 1hp difference talking about catted and O/R ???

Colorado_Mustang

Yep. The cats really don't restrict flow as much as people think. They do change the sound, however.

2VNA

save and get the LT's, I went your way and am changing that now.

blstoff

some of the catted mid-pipe's willturn onCEL .

203Mach1ne

I would go with both midpipe and headers, but I figure headers cost a minimum of $500 and I don't want to keep putting all this money into my car, since I'm only in high school!
I do, however, want more power, and figured a midpipe in addition to my catback would give me a good amount of power for a decent price.
I'm doing it all at once--a JLT RAI w/ shaker functionality, midpipe, wheels, and dyno tune

Should I even bother with a midpipe?

203Mach1ne

I could go with the SLP X-pipe
http://fasttoys.net/shop/product_inf...roducts_id=420
So if I want headers in the future, I won;t need to buy a new midpipe
Will this give me a noticeable increase in hp/tq?
It will be working with my LM1 catback, PHP spacer, and JLT intake

Any better prices on this midpipe?

xxkazp3rxx

midpipe is basically a sound mod, that's it. You'll get maybe a few rwhp off of it, but nothing you'll feel.

I wouldn't do longtubes until you do everything else first. If you need to do anything with the tranny, you have to redrop the headers, and unless you can do the work yourself - you're looking at over 1k for headers and install and midpipe... and you'll see maybe 15rwhp total. Do the midpipe - you can find good used ones (i got my Maco/r h pipe for $90.00 used..) if its offroad you will need MIL Eliminators, or a tune/chip to turn off the 02 sensors.... So, if you plan on longtubes in the future, you can still get your midpipe now, like i said look for a good quality used one cheap, then when you get your longtubes, sell that one... that's what i would do...