comparison between gt and cobra
10-27-2004, 08:13 PM
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RE: comparison between gt and cobra
Thats what I'm doing to my 96 GT.
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COBRA 36-38,000 GT-25-28,000
-YOUR LOOKIN AT ABOUT 10 G'S DIF.
-YOU CAN DROP A 5.4 W/ A SC FOR LESS
-OR STROKE IT, FORGED INT, A COBRA CRANK, SC IT AND STILL HAVE MONEY.
-LAST, I LOVE SALEEN ROUSH,COBRAS. BUT BITTOM LINE IF YOU WANT BANG FOR BUCK YOUR A FOOL TO BUY ONE UNLESS YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO BUILD A MOTOR
COBRA 36-38,000 GT-25-28,000
-YOUR LOOKIN AT ABOUT 10 G'S DIF.
-YOU CAN DROP A 5.4 W/ A SC FOR LESS
-OR STROKE IT, FORGED INT, A COBRA CRANK, SC IT AND STILL HAVE MONEY.
-LAST, I LOVE SALEEN ROUSH,COBRAS. BUT BITTOM LINE IF YOU WANT BANG FOR BUCK YOUR A FOOL TO BUY ONE UNLESS YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO BUILD A MOTOR
10-28-2004, 12:23 AM
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RE: comparison between gt and cobra
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Cobra Advantages (03-04): Lighter aluminum block, Forged internals, upgraded brakes, upgraded suspension, IRS for track racing (bad for strip) better racing seats, supercharger, low compression, DOHC (HUGE UPGRADE)...every mod adds more power vs a SOHC), better intake system (twin blade t/b), 6-speed transmission... Hmmm.... All I can think of right now...
Cobra Advantages (03-04): Lighter aluminum block, Forged internals, upgraded brakes, upgraded suspension, IRS for track racing (bad for strip) better racing seats, supercharger, low compression, DOHC (HUGE UPGRADE)...every mod adds more power vs a SOHC), better intake system (twin blade t/b), 6-speed transmission... Hmmm.... All I can think of right now...
The reason a Cobra engine can withstand more power is not because of the block, it's because of the whole bottom end, including the 6-bolt crank, rods and pistons. The rods and pistons are the weakest point on a GT engine.
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But what did you pay for the car to begin with. I bought mine for $15500 and for $10,000 more I will make twice the numbers you make and still have paid less for my car.
But what did you pay for the car to begin with. I bought mine for $15500 and for $10,000 more I will make twice the numbers you make and still have paid less for my car.
10-28-2004, 12:30 AM
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RE: comparison between gt and cobra
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You buy a GT or Cobra because of what it is. People also buy it because it's easy to mod. But when you go rebuilding an entire car, the gloves are off.
You could practically take any old beater and make it run if you throw enough money at it.
Imagine a Cobra getting beat by a guy in a GT that says he only has $25k in the car vs. the Cobras $30k.
Then imagine a guy beating the both of them, and he says that he only has $18k in his car. Does it really matter?
Once you sink a certain amount in, I don't think it does.
You buy a GT or Cobra because of what it is. People also buy it because it's easy to mod. But when you go rebuilding an entire car, the gloves are off.
You could practically take any old beater and make it run if you throw enough money at it.
Imagine a Cobra getting beat by a guy in a GT that says he only has $25k in the car vs. the Cobras $30k.
Then imagine a guy beating the both of them, and he says that he only has $18k in his car. Does it really matter?
Once you sink a certain amount in, I don't think it does.
I have a grand total of about $2,700 in my '65 Pontiac and making close to the power your Cobra is making on just a mild engine rebuild. Power is easy with a big block. 
It's all a money game, and part of owning a Cobra is just the prestige of having one. Besides, some people just have the money to be able to buy whatever the hell they want whenever they want. Other people like myself who are more budget-minded because I don't make $200k a year approach things differently. Maybe when I finish school that will change...
10-28-2004, 12:54 AM
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RE: comparison between gt and cobra
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The reason a Cobra engine can withstand more power is not because of the block, it's because of the whole bottom end, including the 6-bolt crank
The reason a Cobra engine can withstand more power is not because of the block, it's because of the whole bottom end, including the 6-bolt crank
10-28-2004, 12:57 AM
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RE: comparison between gt and cobra
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Maybe horsepower numbers, but as stated previously, you're overlooking all the other goodies a Cobra has stock that a GT doesn't, like the brakes and suspension. Brake swaps are one of the most expensive upgrades on any car when you have disc brakes. If you have 800 hp and a ****ty stock GT suspension and drivetrain, it's not going to mean a damn thing because you're not going to be able to use it effectively, or you're just going to grenade your car.
Maybe horsepower numbers, but as stated previously, you're overlooking all the other goodies a Cobra has stock that a GT doesn't, like the brakes and suspension. Brake swaps are one of the most expensive upgrades on any car when you have disc brakes. If you have 800 hp and a ****ty stock GT suspension and drivetrain, it's not going to mean a damn thing because you're not going to be able to use it effectively, or you're just going to grenade your car.
10-28-2004, 02:22 AM
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RE: comparison between gt and cobra
thanks guys. i guess im just second guessin why i didnt just go all the way for the cobra. but i mean if the gt has the potential to put out enough power then i think ill be happy with the gt. i just need to get as much hp as possible. it sucks when a cousin has a ws6 and you have to try to keep up with that. lol
10-28-2004, 04:25 AM
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RE: comparison between gt and cobra
you can do that Jdaniel, and ignore your tranny and clutch. a 3650 will hold up but not for long.
look people, an 03/04 cobra is by far the most powerful engine ford has ever produced. you've got guys running 800+ rwhp and running low 9's on the stock block and rotating assembly. 96-01 cobra motors were aluminum engines. USA muscle has made some of the points that i dont think i need to re iterate, but he of course did get the cobra block wrong and the crank. cobras have 8 bolt cranks.
and again, since you people are not reading i'll type it in caps.
A GT BLOCK CANNOT HANDLE THAT KIND OF POWER. THEY SPLIT APART AT 600 HP ON A REGULAR BASIS.
the crank pistons and rods usually go before that. but the casting itself, what you people fail to realize, simply is not built to handle that kind of power. period.
look people, an 03/04 cobra is by far the most powerful engine ford has ever produced. you've got guys running 800+ rwhp and running low 9's on the stock block and rotating assembly. 96-01 cobra motors were aluminum engines. USA muscle has made some of the points that i dont think i need to re iterate, but he of course did get the cobra block wrong and the crank. cobras have 8 bolt cranks.
and again, since you people are not reading i'll type it in caps.
A GT BLOCK CANNOT HANDLE THAT KIND OF POWER. THEY SPLIT APART AT 600 HP ON A REGULAR BASIS.
the crank pistons and rods usually go before that. but the casting itself, what you people fail to realize, simply is not built to handle that kind of power. period.