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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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quick question when yall spray into the intercooler (mine does) does ur charger change sounds??? I have straghit cut gears so its loud anyways but when i hit the juice the charger starts whinning even louder (noticeable louder) no problems or anything i was just wondering?
I think from the air becoming denser in the intercooler the charger has more resistance against it causing it to work harder there for making it louder. Thats just my $.02
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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Ehh... mixed feelings; i'd rather save the money for a new shortblock. Edit: i didnt see you already had the kit. What the hell then, as long as your prepared to build a new shortblock if something goes wrong.



To who said 25shot with a blower = 50rwhp explain that one to me....you're still adding the same amount of N20 into your engine. Just because the air is compressed doent make the n20 double.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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its common knowledge spraying into a blown motor typically doubles the amount of hp that it would produce in a NA motor.

ie: 25 shot =50rwhp, 50=100.

If i had to guess why i would say its in teh dynamics of the air being compressed in the engine. Since a blowerproduces more air to be utilized in the engine, i would guess that more air (oxygen)is being left unused, so when you add the nitrous it helps to further burn the left over air which there is more of now with the addition of a blower.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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its common knowledge spraying into a blown motor typically doubles the amount of hp that it would produce in a NA motor.

ie: 25 shot =50rwhp, 50=100.

If i had to guess why i would say its in teh dynamics of the air being compressed in the engine. Since a blowerproduces more air to be utilized in the engine, i would guess that more air (oxygen)is being left unused, so when you add the nitrous it helps to further burn the left over air which there is more of now with the addition of a blower.
thats the stupidest thing ive heard. nitrous oxide isnt flamable. nitrous oxide just adds more air to the fire. adding more air to the "air being left unsued"= more air. and a blower does add more air to the engine, but it also takes more fuel, hence larger injectors and a computer tune
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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I thought about spraying the intercooler but I would have to build a spraybar. I called around looking for just a bar to buy but everyone told me I had to buy the whole kit to get it. I don't know the reason nitrous produces double the power of the shot being used but I know it does. Does anyone know where I can get a spray bar to spray the intercooler? I could probably build one but I've never seen one to know what exactly to build.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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its common knowledge spraying into a blown motor typically doubles the amount of hp that it would produce in a NA motor.

ie: 25 shot =50rwhp, 50=100.

If i had to guess why i would say its in teh dynamics of the air being compressed in the engine. Since a blowerproduces more air to be utilized in the engine, i would guess that more air (oxygen)is being left unused, so when you add the nitrous it helps to further burn the left over air which there is more of now with the addition of a blower.

Not even close. The only reason that it might make more power is because it would cool the incoming air a little more.

If you're adding a 25 shot of nitrous, and running 15lbs of boost you're not going to essentially double the nitrous. A 25 shot is a 25 shot of nitrous.... yes sounds basic but you dont understand this. When you compress air at 15lbs you're sucking in twice as much air through your filter (from aninfinite supply). Nitrous is clearly limited by the jets you're running.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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I thought about spraying the intercooler but I would have to build a spraybar. I called around looking for just a bar to buy but everyone told me I had to buy the whole kit to get it. I don't know the reason nitrous produces double the power of the shot being used but I know it does. Does anyone know where I can get a spray bar to spray the intercooler? I could probably build one but I've never seen one to know what exactly to build.
How hard would it be to fabricate a spraybar?
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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It probably wouldn't be too bad. I just would like to see one before I tried to make one. From pictures I've seen they look to be made from some pretty big tubing. There must be a pill in there because if you just screwed the nitrous line in a bar that big wouldn't it spray the whole bottle out in just one pass? If I sprayed a 25 shot in the motor I would get like 25 1/8 mile passes on just one bottle. If I use it to spray the intercooler I would only get 4 passes maybe. If spraying a 25 shot adds 50 hp and spraying the intercooler adds 50 hp then I should spray the 25 since the bottle will last so much longer right??? A 50 hp gain is a 50 hp gain. So one would not be any eaiser than the other right???
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its common knowledge spraying into a blown motor typically doubles the amount of hp that it would produce in a NA motor.

ie: 25 shot =50rwhp, 50=100.

If i had to guess why i would say its in teh dynamics of the air being compressed in the engine. Since a blowerproduces more air to be utilized in the engine, i would guess that more air (oxygen)is being left unused, so when you add the nitrous it helps to further burn the left over air which there is more of now with the addition of a blower.

Not even close. The only reason that it might make more power is because it would cool the incoming air a little more.

If you're adding a 25 shot of nitrous, and running 15lbs of boost you're not going to essentially double the nitrous. A 25 shot is a 25 shot of nitrous.... yes sounds basic but you dont understand this. When you compress air at 15lbs you're sucking in twice as much air through your filter (from aninfinite supply). Nitrous is clearly limited by the jets you're running.
96 mystic: If you are not fully burning the oxygen in the cylinder, your car would be running lean, which would result in very bad things happening.

Nitrous is not a fuel, nitrous is an oxidiser. Know what happens if you light up a match, hold it in front of a nitrous bottle, and open the bottle? It blows out the match. Nitrous cannot help burn the oxygen, it needs fuel to burn (both the N20 and o2). This is why when running nitrous you either inject more fuel thru a jet in the intake tract or add more fuel via the injectors.

A 25 shot is a 25 shot. You might make a little more simply because you are cooling the intake tract and thus can run more timing (kinda like a methonal kit).

Edit: I would not spray a stock shortblock that is already under blower boost unless you really are looking forward to a big boom.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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its common knowledge spraying into a blown motor typically doubles the amount of hp that it would produce in a NA motor.

ie: 25 shot =50rwhp, 50=100.

If i had to guess why i would say its in teh dynamics of the air being compressed in the engine. Since a blowerproduces more air to be utilized in the engine, i would guess that more air (oxygen)is being left unused, so when you add the nitrous it helps to further burn the left over air which there is more of now with the addition of a blower.
thats the stupidest thing ive heard. nitrous oxide isnt flamable. nitrous oxide just adds more air to the fire. adding more air to the "air being left unsued"= more air. and a blower does add more air to the engine, but it also takes more fuel, hence larger injectors and a computer tune
God forbid i take a guess, if im wrong im wrong, but don't call me stupid. If an educated guess will result in an insult, then you and whomever taught you your manners can go screw themselves.



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