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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:15 AM
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supercharged = dished pistons for lower compression ratio which doesnt matter because boost will make up for the low ratio
Naturaly aspirated = flat top pistons for high compression so that you can get as much bang for your buck.

if you are staying under 500 hp than hyperutectic pistons should be fine. anymore and you should get forged steel
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:16 AM
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Your friend isn't very scared of sounding like a schmuck, is he?
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:17 AM
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Oh ok I apprecitate the help alot, one more question when you say lower compression vs higher compression what is the difference when going F/I to N/A
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:22 AM
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Your friend isn't very scared of sounding like a schmuck, is he?
His response to all the information that I have gotten is these guys on the site have no idea what they are talking about, but if you wanna learn what makes a car gain HP and how it works talk to me if not listen to them and get wrong info. So I guess he really doesnt mind
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:23 AM
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you want low compresion when u got f/i becuase your forcing more air n fuel in the combustion chamber. when ur n/a u can use flat pistons to raise your compression ecause ur not going to put slamming all the air in. i hope that helps??
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:30 AM
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OOoOo it does , it makes perfect sense. Lol glad I got this site with lots of smart car guys to give info instead of listening to my friend.
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:46 AM
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the ONLY way to make more power is to smash as much air and fuel as possible into the combustion chamber. the reason you want low compression ratio with F/I is because you do not want to much compression. your engine will start to diesel and detonate if the compression ratio is to high. for instance. 4.6 mustangs have about 9.3:1 compression ratio. in the 70's when cars sucked, they had about 8:1 ratio. Some Hondas today have over 11:1 ratio. Crotch rockets have about 12.5:1 the highest you can go is about 13.8:1. Diesel engines have 20:1 because they dont have spark plugs and use compression to ignite the fuel and air instead which is what your engine will do with to much compression.

lets explain what compression ratio is. It is the ratio between the volume of the cylinder, when the piston is at the bottom of its stroke, and the volume when the piston is at the top of its stroke.

basicly when you are supercharging or doing a turbo, you are making your car have a high compression ratio when you are making boost. thus making a f/i car more streetable and controlable.
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:53 AM
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OOOOOOO So very descriptive, damn that was a some awesome information, are you a mechanic or jus know alot about cars?
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:53 AM
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the ONLY way to make more power is to smash as much air and fuel as possible into the combustion chamber. the reason you want low compression ratio with F/I is because you do not want to much compression. your engine will start to diesel and detonate if the compression ratio is to high. for instance. 4.6 mustangs have about 9.3:1 compression ratio. in the 70's when cars sucked, they had about 8:1 ratio. Some Hondas today have over 11:1 ratio. Crotch rockets have about 12.5:1 the highest you can go is about 13.8:1. Diesel engines have 20:1 because they dont have spark plugs and use compression to ignite the fuel and air instead which is what your engine will do with to much compression.

lets explain what compression ratio is. It is the ratio between the volume of the cylinder, when the piston is at the bottom of its stroke, and the volume when the piston is at the top of its stroke.

basicly when you are supercharging or doing a turbo, you are making your car have a high compression ratio when you are making boost. thus making a f/i car more streetable and controlable.
Way to out to me over acheiver[sm=hail.gif]jk..way better way to explain it
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:54 AM
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I forged my motor and added nothing else and still NA and lost power (that I can feel) But I also dropped the compression to 8.8:1 because I will be slapping on a couple of turbos. The forged parts did feel lighter but I didn't weigh them.



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