Anybody know a good site with good creditable data
11-20-2007, 07:04 PM
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Anybody know a good site with good creditable data
My dad says by putting MSD in a car is pointless because he says spark is spark. I thought MSD improves spark and HP or does it improve better burn of the A/F mix. I was going to buy a MSD coil master blaster 2 and MSD spark plug wires for my1962 (390CI)T-Bird. So do any of you know a site that proves a difference between stock ignition and MSD ignition?
11-20-2007, 07:09 PM
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RE: Anybody know a good site with good creditable data
MSD Ignition
Leave it to two missile engineers to create the best-selling performance ignition of all time, but that’s exactly what happened: You know their invention as the MSD ignition, which stands for multiple spark discharge. And the name says it all. An MSD ignition system is so effective because it allows for multiple sparks per combustion cycle, practically ensuring that the fuel/air mixture will be fully burned. We all know that the more complete combustion you get, the more power you produce, so that’s the formula by which MSD ignition products produce horsepower. MSD ignition works off a principle called “capacitive discharge,” the basics of which are produced in the famous MSD ignition box that is a part of most MSD ignition systems. But MSD ignition is about much more than just the capacitive discharge box. That’s because MSD ignition has become synonymous with high quality ignition parts of all types, including tune up parts, billet distributors, plug wires, coils, and magnetic trigger systems. Of course, MSD ignition parts work best when they’re combined with each other into a potent system, but MSD ignition parts can also be added piecemeal to an older points system in order to achieve modern results. For all your ignition needs, check first to see if there are MSD ignition parts available. You can save money over rebuilt or lesser quality parts and you always get increased power because of the increased spark delivered by your MSD ignition parts.
MSD Spark Plug Wires
Made to the same exacting tolerances as everything MSD supplies, MSD spark plug wires deliver the juice in a big way. MSD spark plug wires are designed with two goals in mind: Optimum power transfer and minimum RF interference. The two goals are frequently mutually exclusive, but MSD spark plug wires utilize new technological breakthroughs in spiral-core wire design to provide the lowest resistance possible while still maintaining excellent RF shielding. Super Conductor MSD spark plug wires have the lowest resistance of any wire of their kind (non solid-core street wire), but they have the RF shielding of a wire with 30 times their resistance! To give you an example of how tightly wound the coils are in these MSD spark plug wires, MSD claims that each foot of wire contains 40 feet of wound copper—that’s a lot of winding. For those of you on a tighter budget, try Heli-Core MSD spark plug wires. These MSD spark plug wires feature a lot of the same technologies found in Super Conductor wires but built into more affordable MSD spark plug wires. All MSD spark plug wires are available in custom sets for most popular applications, with universal sets and bulk wire also available. Give your spark plugs a special delivery of high voltage the best way you know how: Install MSD spark plug wires on your car, truck, van, or SUV and see horsepower and fuel economy improvements.
Leave it to two missile engineers to create the best-selling performance ignition of all time, but that’s exactly what happened: You know their invention as the MSD ignition, which stands for multiple spark discharge. And the name says it all. An MSD ignition system is so effective because it allows for multiple sparks per combustion cycle, practically ensuring that the fuel/air mixture will be fully burned. We all know that the more complete combustion you get, the more power you produce, so that’s the formula by which MSD ignition products produce horsepower. MSD ignition works off a principle called “capacitive discharge,” the basics of which are produced in the famous MSD ignition box that is a part of most MSD ignition systems. But MSD ignition is about much more than just the capacitive discharge box. That’s because MSD ignition has become synonymous with high quality ignition parts of all types, including tune up parts, billet distributors, plug wires, coils, and magnetic trigger systems. Of course, MSD ignition parts work best when they’re combined with each other into a potent system, but MSD ignition parts can also be added piecemeal to an older points system in order to achieve modern results. For all your ignition needs, check first to see if there are MSD ignition parts available. You can save money over rebuilt or lesser quality parts and you always get increased power because of the increased spark delivered by your MSD ignition parts.
MSD Spark Plug Wires
Made to the same exacting tolerances as everything MSD supplies, MSD spark plug wires deliver the juice in a big way. MSD spark plug wires are designed with two goals in mind: Optimum power transfer and minimum RF interference. The two goals are frequently mutually exclusive, but MSD spark plug wires utilize new technological breakthroughs in spiral-core wire design to provide the lowest resistance possible while still maintaining excellent RF shielding. Super Conductor MSD spark plug wires have the lowest resistance of any wire of their kind (non solid-core street wire), but they have the RF shielding of a wire with 30 times their resistance! To give you an example of how tightly wound the coils are in these MSD spark plug wires, MSD claims that each foot of wire contains 40 feet of wound copper—that’s a lot of winding. For those of you on a tighter budget, try Heli-Core MSD spark plug wires. These MSD spark plug wires feature a lot of the same technologies found in Super Conductor wires but built into more affordable MSD spark plug wires. All MSD spark plug wires are available in custom sets for most popular applications, with universal sets and bulk wire also available. Give your spark plugs a special delivery of high voltage the best way you know how: Install MSD spark plug wires on your car, truck, van, or SUV and see horsepower and fuel economy improvements.
11-21-2007, 08:30 AM
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RE: Anybody know a good site with good creditable data
ORIGINAL: piledriver
Multiple sparks eh?? Maybe so, but in a combustion chamber once it's lit, it's lit...
Multiple sparks eh?? Maybe so, but in a combustion chamber once it's lit, it's lit...
...unless you're not getting complete combustion for some reason, in which case it's NOT LIT!
This is the point of the MSD at low RPM. At high RPM it's only a single spark.If you upgrade to an MSD box, make sure you spend the extra $20 or whatever it is and get the rev limiter (6A vs. 6AL if you go with the old style box).
11-22-2007, 11:25 PM
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RE: Anybody know a good site with good creditable data
lol he pretty much took what they said off the site and re worded it ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTskaDS_p8Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTskaDS_p8Q
11-23-2007, 12:51 AM
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RE: Anybody know a good site with good creditable data
information from the company that is trying to sell you the product is hardly concrete proof.
The stock ignition systems in the OBD1, and espcially OBD2, cars are very very good, better than most aftermarket systems were until the OBD was introduced. The voltage is very high etc etc.
Mulitple forum members have upgraded either the ingition module or (on the newer cars) the coil packs with both little result and problems down the road (such as cracked coil packs).
Stick with the stock stuff. One thing is for sure, on a lightly modified car its not going to do a thing. You might see some results if you were running a really wild setup that was needing the gap increased on the plugs to prevent blowout (lots of boost in other words) but if you have "unburnt fuel" in the combustion chamber after ignition you have worse problems than a weak ingintion system.
The stock ignition systems in the OBD1, and espcially OBD2, cars are very very good, better than most aftermarket systems were until the OBD was introduced. The voltage is very high etc etc.
Mulitple forum members have upgraded either the ingition module or (on the newer cars) the coil packs with both little result and problems down the road (such as cracked coil packs).
Stick with the stock stuff. One thing is for sure, on a lightly modified car its not going to do a thing. You might see some results if you were running a really wild setup that was needing the gap increased on the plugs to prevent blowout (lots of boost in other words) but if you have "unburnt fuel" in the combustion chamber after ignition you have worse problems than a weak ingintion system.