Which supercharger?
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RE: Which supercharger?
go with a centri, just to save some money, and get the D1sc it can do the same boost as the P1sc, and max out at like 30-32psi. if you need any more F1 will get you there, but thats pushing your block to the edge.
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RE: Which supercharger?
ORIGINAL: tbirdscwd
I will say its almost all about personal preference. I like that my engine oil is seperate from my SC oil. Thats just me. It takes a total of 10 minutes to take my procharger off, so I don't mind doing it every 5-6 thousand miles. As far as high HP applications and featured car not having self oiled blowers. That couldn't be farther from the truth. Think of every KB, Procharger, Whipple, and Eaton you've ever seen in a magazine. You might not see a lot of self contained centris, because the only company (until the recent release of Paxtons new design) Procharger is the only company that offers self oiling. I have seen plenty of P-1 and D-1 making gobs of power and have seen them in many Mags. What about the Livernois 700rwhp 3v on a procharger F-1 thats been featured like 20 f-in times.
I will say its almost all about personal preference. I like that my engine oil is seperate from my SC oil. Thats just me. It takes a total of 10 minutes to take my procharger off, so I don't mind doing it every 5-6 thousand miles. As far as high HP applications and featured car not having self oiled blowers. That couldn't be farther from the truth. Think of every KB, Procharger, Whipple, and Eaton you've ever seen in a magazine. You might not see a lot of self contained centris, because the only company (until the recent release of Paxtons new design) Procharger is the only company that offers self oiling. I have seen plenty of P-1 and D-1 making gobs of power and have seen them in many Mags. What about the Livernois 700rwhp 3v on a procharger F-1 thats been featured like 20 f-in times.
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RE: Which supercharger?
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go with a centri, just to save some money, and get the D1sc it can do the same boost as the P1sc, and max out at like 30-32psi. if you need any more F1 will get you there, but thats pushing your block to the edge.
go with a centri, just to save some money, and get the D1sc it can do the same boost as the P1sc, and max out at like 30-32psi. if you need any more F1 will get you there, but thats pushing your block to the edge.
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RE: Which supercharger?
Ok, back up, noob here. P-1, D-1, PS1C, (pi) heads? Sorry. Feel like a dumb### asking but what do they mean? I want some ponies out of my car, so I need to understand what you guys are talking bout. Also, "banned." Whats wrong with the self contained units? If they don't affect efficiency and reliablity, and you have the patience to add more time to oil changes, why not?
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RE: Which supercharger?
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and the twin screw analogy doesnt hold water either
and the twin screw analogy doesnt hold water either
And nanaki, I'm just wondering if anyone on here has actually Pushed a P-1sc or D-1sc to its limits. Your right, just because it says it can push 32 psi, doesn't mean ****. But what about the CFM. The P-1sc is supposed to flow an additional 200 CFM vs the S-trim
and the D-1sc an additional 400 CFM. That's an exta 40% at max efficiency on the D-1sc. I don't see how the numbers can be that far off.
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RE: Which supercharger?
ORIGINAL: tbirdscwd
Check out their website, (http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml) they're all self contained except for the P600, D-1, (not the D-1sc), and the D-1r. I believe the entire F-series is self contained. And how doesn't the twin screw "analogy" hold water. Are they not self contained, do you not see serious horsepower twin screws? Like around thousand on gt-500s.
And nanaki, I'm just wondering if anyone on here has actually Pushed a P-1sc or D-1sc to its limits. Your right, just because it says it can push 32 psi, doesn't mean ****. But what about the CFM. The P-1sc is supposed to flow an additional 200 CFM vs the S-trim
and the D-1sc an additional 400 CFM. That's an exta 40% at max efficiency on the D-1sc. I don't see how the numbers can be that far off.
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and the twin screw analogy doesnt hold water either
and the twin screw analogy doesnt hold water either
And nanaki, I'm just wondering if anyone on here has actually Pushed a P-1sc or D-1sc to its limits. Your right, just because it says it can push 32 psi, doesn't mean ****. But what about the CFM. The P-1sc is supposed to flow an additional 200 CFM vs the S-trim
and the D-1sc an additional 400 CFM. That's an exta 40% at max efficiency on the D-1sc. I don't see how the numbers can be that far off.
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RE: Which supercharger?
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Ok, back up, noob here. P-1, D-1, PS1C, (pi) heads? Sorry. Feel like a dumb### asking but what do they mean? I want some ponies out of my car, so I need to understand what you guys are talking bout. Also, "banned." Whats wrong with the self contained units? If they don't affect efficiency and reliablity, and you have the patience to add more time to oil changes, why not?
Ok, back up, noob here. P-1, D-1, PS1C, (pi) heads? Sorry. Feel like a dumb### asking but what do they mean? I want some ponies out of my car, so I need to understand what you guys are talking bout. Also, "banned." Whats wrong with the self contained units? If they don't affect efficiency and reliablity, and you have the patience to add more time to oil changes, why not?
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RE: Which supercharger?
ORIGINAL: tbirdscwd
Does anyone on here have a built motor pushing some serious pressure on a procharger? I always found that notion weird. If you look at the stats, the P-1sc has the same flow ratings as a t-trim and a D-1 bests them both by 200cfm. They both can push more PSI and have higher Max impeller speeds, whats the deal?
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and that blower/cooler is more than enough to out power the stock shortblock if you want (but not really enough when you go to rebuilding).
and that blower/cooler is more than enough to out power the stock shortblock if you want (but not really enough when you go to rebuilding).
You just can't go by manufactuerer ratings. I dunno why, but it never seems to add up. You just have to take RL experence of others to see what will happen.