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Old 03-01-2009, 04:18 PM
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Got a boost gauge and a fuel pressure gauge at the moment but I would like to add an A/F ratio gauge to keep an eye on things. Any suggestions?

What's the difference between wide-band and narrow band O2 sensors?

I've been looking at Autometer's wide-band gauges with the peak recall and warning light features. A tad expensive but I really like the features.

On a boosted application, what's a good A/F ratio? I know 14.7 is considered stoich for gas motors, but someone told me F/I applications run a little different. And to make sure I understand the numbering correctly, 12.5 would be leaner than say 14.7 correct??

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Originally Posted by bigmackloud
Got a boost gauge and a fuel pressure gauge at the moment but I would like to add an A/F ratio gauge to keep an eye on things. Any suggestions?

What's the difference between wide-band and narrow band O2 sensors?

I've been looking at Autometer's wide-band gauges with the peak recall and warning light features. A tad expensive but I really like the features.

On a boosted application, what's a good A/F ratio? I know 14.7 is considered stoich for gas motors, but someone told me F/I applications run a little different. And to make sure I understand the numbering correctly, 12.5 would be leaner than say 14.7 correct??

Thanks,
bigmac
You want a wideband sensor for tuning, Autometer, AEM, NGK, and Innovate all make good units--I like the Innovate LC-1 and their analog gauges. Innovate uses a proprietary calibration system rather than the builtin Bosch calibration resistor which make their system more accurate.

With respect to AFR is is true that "...14.7 is considered stoich for gas motors", mostly because it is the only stoichiometric AFR for gasoline fueled engines.

In closed loop mode you want 14.7:1 regardless of induction method, at WOT with an f/i setup you will want to be at 11.5:1 or so--which is richer than 14.7:1...

AFR is air/fuel ratio, therefore the first part of 12.5:1 (12.5) is the number of "parts" of air and the second part (1) is the number of parts of fuel. 14.7:1 is 14.7 parts of air and 1 part of fuel, so it's leaner (more air/less fuel) than 12.5:1 (12.5 parts air and 1 part fuel).
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Thanks for the info and the heads up on Innovative. I like their XD-16 gauge.

I'm now fighting the urge to get an entire data acquisition system. haha.
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In my experience,autometer gauges tend to be very slow which doesnt help with tuning.Innovate makes great products and i highly recommend them
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My autometer wideband doesn't seem slow at all.
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they know have this available http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...?idproduct=151 sorry to jack the thread but im trying to get a better understanding. does this allows you to tune your own vehicle via laptop or device?
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they know have this available http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...?idproduct=151 sorry to jack the thread but im trying to get a better understanding. does this allows you to tune your own vehicle via laptop or device?
That is just an Innovate LC-1 wideband controller that has been programmed to work with an Autometer narrowband meter (that you would have to already own).

It is not a tuner, just a wideband O2 sensor control system.
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Old 03-07-2009, 01:44 PM
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Go with the AEM Wideband from lethal. I love mine!

http://www.lethalperformance.com/03-...roller-p-18348
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the PLX wide bands seem to be a good unit as well. Haven't heard any bad things about them.
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Are a/f rartio gauges hard to install?
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