kongdong

Look at this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercharger

Right above the "Aircraft" section is a small paragraph that caught my eye. Can anyone make sense of this?

Xemeth

It is possible. 03/04 Cobras sometimes go twin turbo and keep the stock Eaton.

There's really no point, though, unless one is already there like the stock Cobras. Using just one or the other can make the same power as two.

03svtcobra12

yes it is, but the supercharger limits the maximum power because at higher rpms it because an inlet restriction to the turbos

kongdong

then why would someone want to do it then? I read the the exhaust fumes are REALLY polluted.

sweger

there was an article on this in a recent issue of Modified Mustangs & Fast Fords, past month or so. they called it compound boost. the car made somewhere in the neighborhood of 1200 to the wheels. i have also seen this done on a 2006 cobalt ss, s/c from the factory and then they through a turbo kit on it. i wuldrather have just a s/c, lots lss plumbing

texas_stang02

yeah that's the article that came to mind when i saw this thread. i couldn't see someone going out of their way to install both, but if you've already got a s/c (like the Terminators) then why not?

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Edit: Straight from Lethal

Fobra

yeah but not really, that hellion kit is just a gimmick for people who are to lazy or dont want to replace the intake stuff and just bolt on a turbo kit. The kit will make more power without the stock eaton restricting the turbos

sweger

i think the advantage to tho running with a supercharger as well is you can run larger turbos than normal (in a twin turbo application) and the s/c would spool them up fatser. they actually said in the article that if the s/c was removed and a 4v intake manifold installed, that the car wouldve mad more power.

sweger

to correct my earlier post saing the article was in MM&FF, it is actually in the Spring 2009 issue of Hot Mustang Projects, which is published byt eh same people who do MM&FF i believe. here is a link

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...bra/index.html