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Three pondering questions on 4.6 DOHC and IRS swaps

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Old 07-03-2009, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 97gold
not to burst ur bubble but with non pi engine coil packs headers and x pipes u maybe be hitting 200 or 210hp
I'll re-estimate then at about 230-250hp considering baseline is 215hp @ 4200rpm. Also on that note the 4V of the same year made 300hp @ 5000rpm. So 85hp out of a engine not on boost is well worth it, however the motor Im looking for is 390hp @ 6000hp.
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:28 PM
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i think i have about 265 270hp maybe with every bolt on and a pi engine after cams and tune i should have over 300hp
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by a_penquin
I'll re-estimate then at about 230-250hp considering baseline is 215hp @ 4200rpm. Also on that note the 4V of the same year made 300hp @ 5000rpm. So 85hp out of a engine not on boost is well worth it, however the motor Im looking for is 390hp @ 6000hp.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jmac72187
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Specs are coming from the AM tech site, the 390hp is the 03 cobra motor Im attempting to track down, the single and dual overhead specs are both for 98 model engines
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Originally Posted by a_penquin
Specs are coming from the AM tech site, the 390hp is the 03 cobra motor Im attempting to track down, the single and dual overhead specs are both for 98 model engines
You are talking about crank hp. No one talks about crank horspower. You are definitely not making 230rwhp.

EDIT: Also expect to pay a lot for a Termi drivetrain. They make that much because they are boosted.
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:45 PM
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don't the non pi make 215 at the crank and like 185 or 195hp at the wheel's
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:59 PM
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listen, Im not here to fight about power at the wheels, at the crank, or whatever, Im looking for information for a few things I want to do, lets get back on subject.
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Have fun... but if you think you make 300 hp crank or rw from your mods on your NPI engine, you have a lot to learn.
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by POISND U
The only part that is untrue....

99% of IRS cars with the known remedies (bushings, decent tires, a good shock/spring setup, FLSFCs) have eliminated wheel hop. The other 1% are freaks of nature. There's more than a few Cobras running 10s with nothing more than the mods I've listed. Then they just start snapping axles....

OP, consider that you although you will be adding 85 lbs to *** of the car, weight distribution will improve.

As far as ease of swap, it could go either way....my swap took 12 hours because EVERYTHING went wrong. Subframe wouldn't line up on the donor car, shredded wheel studs, exhaust fitment, brake issues....I have SEEN it done in 3 hours before, though.

If you plan on power levels above 450 I strongly recommend keeping the SRA......Level 5 axles are STUPID expensive and the stockers WILL eventually snap.
The guys over on svtp have gone through this, look for a thread with the title of the red pill or something along those lines. There are many weakness's inherent in the cobra's IRS, the biggest one being that Ford decided to use rubber bushings in the IRS instead of with something a little stiffer like poly-urethane.

When we first swapped the IRS into my car, I decided to test the whole wheel hop issue since I did not believe it was as bad as was posted online. I went over to my friends workplace which is like a deserted hangar during the day (they park bus's in there during the night) and we messed around for an hour or so dumping the clutch. It felt pretty damn bad when the tires warmed a bit and it started hooking, felt like my SRA on a rough road. After swapping out the bushings for poly-urethane ones (did not go with delrin as they require regreasing quite often and I put too many miles on it to really be bothered with having to do this) and going back to the same garage, albeit these weren't in a perfectly controlled place, the test provided impressive results as far as wheel hop (there was almost no wheel hop)

This is what I've done to the IRS, I will not be going with the dss lvl 5 halfshafts as I've seen a lvl 5 halfshaft get demolished by a stock cobra, I'll replace it with another 03-04 halfshaft if it breaks as it's cheaper and to me is plenty strong enough for my non drag car.

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Old 07-03-2009, 07:12 PM
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i've never had problem with wheel hop except for the probe i had and that was frwd
but i never tried dr's etheir
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