4.6L (1996-2004 Modular) Mustang Technical discussions on 1996-2004 4.6 Liter Modular Motors (2V and 4V) within.

vortech question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 14, 2010 | 03:07 PM
  #1  
luey2009's Avatar
luey2009
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 46
From: new york
Default vortech question

does sending the cpu unit to vortech for computer reprogramming still require a dyno tune after installation? im contemplating installing a v3 kit. thanks guys.
Old Mar 14, 2010 | 03:44 PM
  #2  
smythge's Avatar
smythge
4th Gear Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,173
From: WI
Default

Vortech doesn't reprogram the computer they install a chip, at least thats what they did on mine which is a canned tune, so no you do not need a dyno tune. However with the chip I wasn't able to use my handheld tuner to change my gear ratio turn of my rear 02s etc, so I ended up pulling the chip and having it dyno tuned anyway.

Last edited by smythge; Mar 14, 2010 at 04:37 PM.
Old Mar 14, 2010 | 05:59 PM
  #3  
MU71L4710N's Avatar
MU71L4710N
5th Gear Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,189
From:
Default

like said, its a canned tune. dyno tune is HIGHLY reccomended over a canned tune when you're dealing with FI. they can't predict 100% how your car is going to run by guestimating some numbers.
Old Mar 14, 2010 | 07:30 PM
  #4  
luey2009's Avatar
luey2009
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 46
From: new york
Default

so is a dyno tune strickly done to find out your new hp numbers or is it also to recalibrate your engine? can your car run safely with just the chip installed w/o dyno tuning?
Old Mar 14, 2010 | 08:27 PM
  #5  
ct_white_stang's Avatar
ct_white_stang
4th Gear Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,046
From: CT
Default

Originally Posted by luey2009
so is a dyno tune strickly done to find out your new hp numbers or is it also to recalibrate your engine? can your car run safely with just the chip installed w/o dyno tuning?
Its to recalibrate the air/fuel ratio.
Old Mar 14, 2010 | 08:54 PM
  #6  
smythge's Avatar
smythge
4th Gear Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,173
From: WI
Default

Originally Posted by luey2009
so is a dyno tune strickly done to find out your new hp numbers or is it also to recalibrate your engine? can your car run safely with just the chip installed w/o dyno tuning?

Yes you can run safely on the chip, it a conservative canned tune the tune is based on the the information you provide Vortech. A dyno tune is making adjustments to your cars timing, fuel and air supply, to achieve the most possible horse power and torque, while maintaining optimal air fuel ratio and avoiding detonation. Do a google search on dyno tuning and you can good idea of what all is involved
Old Mar 14, 2010 | 10:21 PM
  #7  
Frostbitten's Avatar
Frostbitten
4th Gear Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,495
From:
Default

the vortech tune is meant for a completely stock car running the base 6-8psi kit
Old Mar 14, 2010 | 10:50 PM
  #8  
MU71L4710N's Avatar
MU71L4710N
5th Gear Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,189
From:
Default

Originally Posted by smythge
Yes you can run safely on the chip, it a conservative canned tune the tune is based on the the information you provide Vortech. A dyno tune is making adjustments to your cars timing, fuel and air supply, to achieve the most possible horse power and torque, while maintaining optimal air fuel ratio and avoiding detonation. Do a google search on dyno tuning and you can good idea of what all is involved
i wouldnt ever tell someone they can safely run on a mail order tune. they SHOULD be able to, but the only way to know for sure is have the car hooked up on a dyno to atleast verify the tune.
Old Mar 15, 2010 | 08:39 AM
  #9  
smythge's Avatar
smythge
4th Gear Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,173
From: WI
Default

Originally Posted by MU71L4710N
i wouldnt ever tell someone they can safely run on a mail order tune. they SHOULD be able to, but the only way to know for sure is have the car hooked up on a dyno to atleast verify the tune.
good point, but vortech does offer a 3 year warranty if you run their tune, so they must be confident it's safe.
Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:21 AM
  #10  
luey2009's Avatar
luey2009
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 46
From: new york
Default

ok thanks for clearing that up for me. If I run a v3 with the aftercooler system, will my stock internals be safe, or would they need to be upgraded? does changing the charger pulley size increase boost level to where internals need to be upgraded?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:08 PM.