medrick

Ok so I had my cams installed about 2 weeks ago at a mustang performance and body shop and the guy installing them said he got them degreed to within 1/4 of a degree of perfect. Well I went up there and checked it out and they started it up for me to hear it and everything sounded great, or so I thought. Well when they finished everything up a day or 2 later (they were also doing some bodywork) I went to get it and they tell me its either running really rich or lean or something (how could you not tell what the problem is???) because they took it up to the car wash to get it cleaned up. Well I drove it around the block and it was backfiring and driving like it was missing. So the next morning I take it to a for dspecialist shop to get my ecu fixed (had a tune locked on the ecu from a programmer i had that got stolen) and he gets my ecu taken care of and just out of curiosity, cause it sounded funny to him he looked at what my engine was doing (still had his laptop hooked up to the OBD2 port) and noticed I hade no firing on cylinder 6. Well he killed it and pushed the pedal all the way down and cranked it so he could listen to the engine and it sounded somewhat like a skip. He said that meant there was no compression on that cylinder. So I take the car back to the shop for them to figure out what happened and they tell me I have a bent exhaust valve. They say it could have been warped somewhat and when they installed the new valve springs it could of rotated the valve some which would of caused it to warp even worse and then cause it to bend. I smell bs on that and I asked him if running lean could cause that because the tube that goes from the driver side valve cover to the jlt intake was broken so it was getting unmetered air. Of course now he says thats probably the problem. So now they had to take it back apart and take the head to a machine shop to have a new valve put in and have the head resurfaced. So I go back up to the shop a day or so before it is finished and now ive got a gash in my brand new front bumper and scrapes all along the bottom edge and my side exhaust pipe was bent back a few inches. One of the guys working in the shop says yeah we couldnt ge it up on the ramps without scraping the bumper. Im like what the F! Thats not my fault that they couldnt do it without scratching it. If it was such a problem the bumper should of been pulled before they tried to get it up on the lift. I already paid for all the bodywork and cam install the first time the car was done and I took it home. Now that they pulled the head and had to redo it I havnt paid anything and they havnt given me a price, but the owner did say he was going to cut me a deal since they had been in the engine already...I know damn well I wont be paying a dime if they dont fix the bumper and exhaust but should I even have to pay for the second time it was in there?

So basically what does everybody think I should do/say and what do you think about this bent valve?

Thanks.

mustangmancp

****...this is kinda what happend to me. Except i drove it like that for about a month...i mean i had to rebuild the motor cuz my pistons were f'd. So i mean i just quit doing business w/ the original shop and went to a new guy. But we've talked and i don't think it was there fault (looooong story lol) but i mean id have them fix it and cut you ONE HELL of a deal since it was their fault in the first place.

Cuz shops don't want this stuff spreading around...

Bmitchell373

It does sound like a load of crap. They should defiantly fix the body/exhaust. The engine its hard too say, defiantly not full price, they should of caught a bad valve when in there to begin with.

Crazycarnut

I agree 100% the bumper and exhaust they caused and should fix as far as the valve goes they should cut you a nice deal.

boduke0220

id pay for what you originally took it in to have done, not a penny more imo

tbirdscwd

I dunno man. They should definitely fix the crap they scewed up and for sure cut you a deal on fixing the motor.

SVTeeshirt

im not into suing over every little thing but when someone ****s up your car and refuses to fix it, sue their asses.

PurpleIcedGT

Do you think this is an issue in any way related to the new cams?

tbirdscwd

I don't remember which cams he put in, but most of the time cams have problems on the intake side. I think the shop probably would have told him if his valves were hitting the pistons or something once they got the heads off again.

PurpleIcedGT

he put in CMS stage 2's....