97stanger

well, you will read tons of mixed reviews about spraying pre blower or pre t/b or both. I do both, but more than likely mike plummer will just have you spray pre throttle body. Even at my levels, I just run a 50/50 mix so you should be fine with windshield washer fluid...like you said its easily available, cheap and convenient. Of course straight meth will give you the best gains, but I agree and dont think its worth it on a car that you just use for weekends and cruising around.

I think you are pretty much in the right direction, cant hurt to call SP and just confirm everything with them though. The meth should put your temps in the 130-140 range and you should pick up some nice power and prevent detonation all while doing so.

Good luck with it and keep us updated!

Armydad

Thanks for all your help, got a ton of info there. I will be doing some write ups in the near future about this entire ordeal over the last year, keep looking for them. Again thanks

97stanger

not a problem, whats your setup btw?

Armydad

I have a 98 GT vert, 5 spd, When fully reinstalled it has a Vortech V1. I also have PI manifold and cams, catted x, FRPP catback, screamon demon coils and wires, and 3.73 gears.

Blackvenom01

dont use windshield washer fluid its dirty!! get boost juice from jegs or some place online where they have cleaned it for your engine

97stanger

michael plummer himself recommends w/w fluid as well fyi, you can mix it yourself but -20 works just fine, I went with boost juice my first few fills though

have you had this setup running yet? Only reason I ask is because PI cams killed my blower setup back when I was on a stock motor

Armydad

Actually I still have the stock npi cams istalled, I have a set of PI cams sitting there and was going to upgrade. The car has not run after the sc install. The job was totally botched and I am going to redo it aftre my head unit gets a rebuild at Vortech.

What exactly happened with the cams that killed you? I have a set of Houston performance blower cams, but I dont want to have them done by someone else, however I am not a wiz at degreeing so I figured Id just pop in some PI cams with the Anderson tool and get a couple more ponies. Please give me any recommendations you have, the info is valued for sure.

97stanger

well on my old setup I had stock non pi heads, stock non pi cams, stock PI manifold, and vortech s trim with bolt ons and intercooler and it put down just about 400/400 through the auto.

I swapped my non pi cams for stock PI cams and lost hp. After doing extensive research and speaking with tons of tuners, it was a no brainer and many tuners even said..."well, yeah". PI cams have more lift than non pi cams, and less duration. You want the complete opposite with a blower grind cam. Blower cars need duration. Basically, with the added lift and drop in duration, boost was going right out of my exhaust. The car felt like a dog too. I just like to share my experiences with people so the same thing doesnt happen to you too. If you already have blower cams, I HIGHLY suggest spending the extra cash to either have someone degree them for you or figure something out and keep them. I had a buddy over who helped me degree my blower cams and it really wasnt all that hard

Armydad

thanks for that, your old set up is exactly what I was going to do and exactly the hp range I was shooting for, actually a little less. I hear what you are saying about the blower cams, however, if I just leave everything as is I will get just what I wanted, the extra expense to me is not worth it. I will keep the cams in case I want to go the next level in the future.

My set up will be like your old one, stock npi heads and cams. TB/plenum, xpipe and cat back, s-trim around 10 lbs, meth cooling. I was calculating it coming in around 360hp. Does that sound about right?

97stanger

almost to the tee, minus meth add intercooler. I was running more boost though to get to the power I was at...I ran a power pipe and 3.12 pulley, if I remember correctly I was seeing about 13psi. So, minus 3 psi and you are exactly in the range of 360-370, so I think you're right on target