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Old 01-05-2006, 12:37 AM
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Default 4.6 zero tolerance?

Does anyone know for sure? I didn't think it was a zero-tolerance engine, but I don't know for sure.
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:42 AM
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Interms of valve to piston interfernece? The motor is an interference motor. Most of todays cars are to take advanatgae of the compression ratios to increase HP and TQ.
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Old 01-05-2006, 03:24 AM
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PLease enlighten me, I have no freaking clue what yall are talking about.
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Old 01-05-2006, 03:25 AM
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Old 01-05-2006, 03:55 AM
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It means that when the piston is at the peak of its stroke, it's in space that the valve operates in. So in a working motor the valves are closed upon final compression, and the gas is ignited, when the piston retreats, the valves open in the space the piston was just in. Therefore, if you lose a timing chain/belt, the piston can slap the valves, damaging them.
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Old 01-05-2006, 08:38 AM
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Default RE: 4.6 zero tolerance?

All of that equals very bad.

We have the luxuary of running chains and not belts. It is quite uncommon to break a chain but common to break a belt.

It is also not commonly refered to as a "Zero-Tolerance" Motor but an "Interference" motor.

Zero tolerance implies that there is no allowable machine tolerence during assembly. If you built a zero tolerance motor it would lock-up with in minutes due to metal expansion as it heats up.


On a side note. The tolerance for the crank shaft end play is 6 to 11ths (0.006 to 0.011) and that's alot interms of machine tolerance.
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:09 PM
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Damn, good information, I wasn't aware of any of this.
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:12 PM
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Default RE: 4.6 zero tolerance?

That is good info, I actually read about this on howstuffworks.com but I didn't know it applied to our motor. It describes the process when you ask how CAM's work. It also explains how diesels work, very interesting in my opinion.
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:21 PM
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ORIGINAL: Acer2428

It means that when the piston is at the peak of its stroke, it's in space that the valve operates in. So in a working motor the valves are closed upon final compression, and the gas is ignited, when the piston retreats, the valves open in the space the piston was just in. Therefore, if you lose a timing chain/belt, the piston can slap the valves, damaging them.
Just to try and expand on that.

a interfernece means that if the valves are open when the piston hits tdc then they will hit causing damage to the valve and or piston. a noninterfernece means that the manufacuter left enough room for the vavles to be fully open at tdc, os if there was a failure in the timing chain/belt then it would not result in damage to the vavles.
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Default RE: 4.6 zero tolerance?

But like said before with the interferecne engine alows more compression because the chamber can be smaller because your not leaving room for the valve to clear the piston at tdc
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