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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 99BlackPonyGT
i just dislike them... i dont see the point in spending almost cobra money for a car that can only take as much modding as a gt that costs 5k+ less
i guess it varies from place to place.

over here mach 1s go for around 13k tops. (stock, low miles, great shape)

cobras cost quite a bit more over here than mach 1s. if you cant afford a cobra i can see why a mach 1 would be a great alternative.

everyones entitled to their own opinion.
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 99BlackPonyGT
i just dislike them... i dont see the point in spending almost cobra money for a car that can only take as much modding as a gt that costs 5k+ less
sorry dude, but your a complete idiot.. I have seen a handful of blower kit, bolt on gts barely trap over 110mph...

i have seen damn never everybolt on mach, auto and stick, trap 108 to 112mph easy...

not to mention 10psi for 10psi the mach would put trains on a gt and probly be damn near a second faster... Yes you have to build the bottom end, but you dont need to do heads or cam like you would in a 2v...

not to mention they look better than alot of 2vs, they have better interior, and stock for stock, mod for mod would kill a 2v...
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by blackonblacksls
sorry dude, but your a complete idiot.. I have seen a handful of blower kit, bolt on gts barely trap over 110mph...

i have seen damn never everybolt on mach, auto and stick, trap 108 to 112mph easy...

not to mention 10psi for 10psi the mach would put trains on a gt and probly be damn near a second faster... Yes you have to build the bottom end, but you dont need to do heads or cam like you would in a 2v...

not to mention they look better than alot of 2vs, they have better interior, and stock for stock, mod for mod would kill a 2v...
im the idiot? i was comparing a mach and a 03/04 cobra, not a gt...gtfo

14k for a whooped mach 1 that is about ready to shoot rods through the block is a bad investment...a cobra can be had for the same price as making that mach reliable

and a built 2v is just as capable as a built 4v, and if you disagree then you seriously dont know your ****...theres 2v motors pushing well over 900hp....sure you would need heads and cams, but the car already cost that much less than a mach that will also need cams and a whole bottom end

for making major power, a mach is not a good starting point compared to a cobra...unless the mach is had for cheap...he paid a **** load for his mach for the condition its in, and therefore i said it was a bad move....

over all the cost of machs is outrageous compared to the cobras which are so much more of a better car for so close to the same price...theres a 3-4k difference in a cobra and a mach, and thats not even if you get a good deal on a cobra...if youre happy with sub 450 hp, why not just get a gt and throw a shaker hood on it?

if you want more than that, get a 03/04 cobra and have a better starting point compared to buying a mach and building it
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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in 10 minutes of looking, i found 2 cobras with less miles than that mach, for 4k more... i bet you could even talk them down since it was their starting asking price

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...-03-cobra.html

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...-sb-coupe.html




look around for a month or two instead of 10 minutes and i guarantee you will find a deal.... 14k for a mach with that many miles and that many mods, is just outrageous
Old Feb 14, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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most of the 03-04 cobras in my area are still over 20k
Old Feb 15, 2009 | 12:32 AM
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4v>2v in terms of capability.. bottom line, no matter how much money you got....
Old Feb 15, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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did you happen to read either of the add you posted.. One of the guys has sprayed and dismayed in his sig? yeah, that sounds like something i want to spend 18k on.. A car with a hole in the bumper, a car thats most likely been sprayed to hell, an obviously he just beats the **** out of it.. Why else would you have 4.10s and a solid rear, with prostars?


then if you look at the other one its a freaking autocross car.... Do you have any clue how much abuse these cars get put through?
Old Feb 15, 2009 | 12:38 AM
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and a mach 1 bottom end will last at 500rwhp pretty reliably.... obviously when you are talking about a car with a head cam intake setup that is leaps and bounds more efficient more than a gt, it will obviously make more power safely on a similar set of internals...
Old Feb 15, 2009 | 12:41 AM
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but also your talking 4kdollar price difference... thats enough for a built motor, and he already has a blower setup thats a hell of alot better than an eaton... so for the same price as a cobra, you could have a built motor with 0 miles, and a blower thats will probly do 100more rwhp than an eaton.
Old Feb 15, 2009 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by blackonblacksls
and a mach 1 bottom end will last at 500rwhp pretty reliably.... obviously when you are talking about a car with a head cam intake setup that is leaps and bounds more efficient more than a gt, it will obviously make more power safely on a similar set of internals...
proof now!

I PERSONALLY know a guy, his name is Jay he lives up here he had a GT making 42xwhp for 2 years! sold it and bought a Mach and eventually supercharged it. Making 43xwhp it snaped a rod in half and he has pictures to prove it. Oh This was 2 months after he supercharged it. Same shop tuned it as his GT. Really i think its just how lucky you tend to be but i have NEVER seen a stock internal GT or Mach make more than 470 to the wheels for more than 6 months and not blow to pieces.

oh and i agree with black, Machs around here are only a few k cheaper than termis, thats why i would never consider one, a friend of mine bough a mach for 17,9 out the door with 32k on it, another friend spent 18,5 on a termi with 43k on it, I don't see the point if you can get a blower and forged internals for that much more. And as far as mach to GT goes, Compare prices there, you can damn near have a blown GT on stock internals for the same price as a mach bone stock.



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