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6th Gear Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 11,786
From: Virginia
Does anyone here want my old Sniper tuning stuff for $60 shipped before I start a FS thread? There are no bullets. It has everything, you'll just need to buy the bullets and do the registration thing. Tuning with this software is not for the faint hearted. It's probably the most complicated BS you'll come across. lol
4th Gear Member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,956
From: NC
You admit your a noobie yet wanna call BS on this? I dont get it...
Too bad that flat power band dies off up top where it actually matters when racing. lol
I like my powerband to actually increase with RPMS. If I wanted that ultra cool flat powerband I would go buy a KB, but I decided turbo would be far better.
I actually love KBs and have already said that, I just dont think they are as fast as centri cars and can not touch a turbo car in the long run.
Heres me trapping 121 and 120.5
That dyno is literally the same setup I ran 11.35@ 121 with....
had some problems with keeping the converter locked for w/e reason but ended up making a run with it through the gears without trying to force it to just lock in third and with the car not heat soaked all to hell and it made 384 rwhp.
Its pointless to show that graph cause the lines all over the place, either way, its a stock pi longblock on 10-11 psi, thats spot on for an auto with that setup.
Like I said, theres numerous people on the forum that have witnessed it...I have no reason to lie, it surprised the hell out of me too but that doesnt mean it didnt happen.
I would like to see your dyno sheets as well.
Just for ****s and giggles, heres with the edelbrock victor jr on top of it
Too bad that flat power band dies off up top where it actually matters when racing. lol
I like my powerband to actually increase with RPMS. If I wanted that ultra cool flat powerband I would go buy a KB, but I decided turbo would be far better.
I actually love KBs and have already said that, I just dont think they are as fast as centri cars and can not touch a turbo car in the long run.
Heres me trapping 121 and 120.5
That dyno is literally the same setup I ran 11.35@ 121 with....
had some problems with keeping the converter locked for w/e reason but ended up making a run with it through the gears without trying to force it to just lock in third and with the car not heat soaked all to hell and it made 384 rwhp.
Its pointless to show that graph cause the lines all over the place, either way, its a stock pi longblock on 10-11 psi, thats spot on for an auto with that setup.
Like I said, theres numerous people on the forum that have witnessed it...I have no reason to lie, it surprised the hell out of me too but that doesnt mean it didnt happen.
I would like to see your dyno sheets as well.
Just for ****s and giggles, heres with the edelbrock victor jr on top of it
My final dyno with 60 lb injectors, perfect air ( 30 degrees out) and revved it to 6400 rpms,( that dotted line to the right is 6500 rpms) notice how the vortech keeps making power and torque even at 6400 rpms....bet your KB cant do that. 
Anyways, let me see some of your dyno sheets...wanna see all this low end hotness
Anyways, let me see some of your dyno sheets...wanna see all this low end hotness
It is infact true with stock PI heads that the KB 2.1L does start losing torque on the top end with a 2V. This problem is completely eliminated with either headwork on a 2V or Cobra 4V heads. But a 2.1L thats dropped onto a stock 2V motor will not sustain its torque.
Gonna attach my dyno sheet. The dyno pull starts @ 3100 RPMS and the torque peaks by 4K. Thats within 900 RPMS and it is every bit as fun as it sounds. It pulls up to full torque that quick regardless of what RPM you start at. As you can see the torque fell way off. Between 4K and 6K it loses ~70RWTQ but the horsepower does climb until redline unlike what you thought. But thats a 9 PSI pulley, not bad. Thats what you get with an otherwise stock 2V though. On a side note i'm confused on how centri setups always have more HP than torque. This is technically impossible because horsepower is a function of torque over a period of time. So realistically even a perfect setup will have equivalent HP and torque. Kinda weird.
Btw hangwire i wasnt jumping in to bash you, i was just comparing my p600b to a 2.1 kb, theres just to much of a kenne belm trend where people see the snakebite video on youtube and right away ots lmgawwwwwwwd kenne bell is awsom, once i level my wizzzard to pwn news in warcraft unverse im buying a kennnne belllll cobra IRL. (this is NOT directed at anyone on this forum, just an example of what i see online)
lol, u no in OC ? u mad bro? Love you
Im not mad, just baffled by some people. I had 100 people tell me I was crazy when I said my car would run low 11s with less than 400 rwhp. I proceed to complete said task, STILL people saying it didnt happen lol. wtf.
The funny thing is I literally ran the car one night on slicks to get those times, wasnt even like ive been 100 times tuning the thing to get every last tenth out of it and its been my DD from about 2006-early 2012.
Love youIm not mad, just baffled by some people. I had 100 people tell me I was crazy when I said my car would run low 11s with less than 400 rwhp. I proceed to complete said task, STILL people saying it didnt happen lol. wtf.
The funny thing is I literally ran the car one night on slicks to get those times, wasnt even like ive been 100 times tuning the thing to get every last tenth out of it and its been my DD from about 2006-early 2012.