354rwhp/330rwtq N/A 2v. Thanks you TFS
03-17-2011, 11:52 PM
#21
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Its not hurting my feelings. I have seen it.. and personally know of 2 people locally to me that have done it.
Im not talkin down on the guy's setup personally.. its just tbird is sack riding it like its god's gift to 2v dyno sheets... when obviously, to most of us, its not that impressive. Great numbers, just not enough to make a dedicated thread and expect the masses to swing all over this guys nuts. Go back to trolling
Im not talkin down on the guy's setup personally.. its just tbird is sack riding it like its god's gift to 2v dyno sheets... when obviously, to most of us, its not that impressive. Great numbers, just not enough to make a dedicated thread and expect the masses to swing all over this guys nuts. Go back to trolling
The TFS heads are giving him about 20-30 extra hp as most people with a built motor, H/C/I on pump gas usually make around 320-330. For $800 more he is getting 20-30hp. Most people spend more than that on cams for the same amount of power gains.
Last edited by WannaBeGearHead; 03-17-2011 at 11:55 PM.
03-18-2011, 12:18 AM
#22
Funny thing is, some guy took an 01 cobra shortblock, threw tfs heads and some bullet racing cams in there and made around 350rwhp, and I think it was through an auto as well. Stroking a mod motor has proven not to yield a gain worth the money, and puts more stress on the internals anyways.
And if you took a look at the guy's sig, he put this motor in a car thats got a sound system in it and such, with a race weight of 3750lbs.
Thanks for the advice wannabe. Just went and told him he should have researched his build better before pulling the trigger and what he should revisit to maximize the potential of his shortblock.
And if you took a look at the guy's sig, he put this motor in a car thats got a sound system in it and such, with a race weight of 3750lbs.
Thanks for the advice wannabe. Just went and told him he should have researched his build better before pulling the trigger and what he should revisit to maximize the potential of his shortblock.
03-18-2011, 06:07 AM
#23
So before this thread blows up into a flame war about cost of this cost of that. I'll just be the real big ***** and say instead of doing a 2v or blower just spend 8k and drop in a pushrod stroker big block that makes 600rwhp NA with a carb. As charlie would say, WINNNNNNNINNNNNNNG.
03-18-2011, 07:24 AM
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I never understood why people put heavy subs and amps in these cars. Seems wrong.
03-18-2011, 08:31 AM
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Ok, I dont know what people arent getting about these kinds of setups. You need TFS-specific cams, you need the correct intake manifold, and you need to tach them out to 7500+RPM to reach their potential!!! This kind of stuff really makes me perturbed just because people mismatch their setups. 354rwhp is not at the height of what that setup should be capable. I dont know what his compression is, but he needs a better set of cams that are head-specific, higher compression, and a tuner that knows what he is doing, because frankly anyone that doesnt tach out a built longblock car to at least 7000rpm is a fool.
The TFS head is good for 3 setups.
1. Stock shortblock with decent cams and stock intake manifold to keep rpm's down and make compression go up.
2. Built shortblock with aggressive cams, short runner intake manifold, and LOTS OF RPM!
3. Any kind of boosted application where increased flow is wanted.
Also, for those of you who dont know, big bore will unshroud the valves and allow for more flow from the heads, so any/all help in that area we can get is much welcomed. Plus, with the Boss block available, that makes it really nice for us mod motor guys to get more flow. Ultimate setup for N/A TFS heads in my book: Nice billet high compression(12:1+) rotating assembly inside a Boss block(aluminum or iron), CMS stage 4 TFS Spec cams, TFS intake manifold with adapter for twin blade throttle body. That setup would be where its at for an N/A 2v. I would guess that with the right fuel, like race gas or E85, that that setup would reach high 3xx's rwhp.
But people continue to mismatch setups and make people unimpressed.
The TFS head is good for 3 setups.
1. Stock shortblock with decent cams and stock intake manifold to keep rpm's down and make compression go up.
2. Built shortblock with aggressive cams, short runner intake manifold, and LOTS OF RPM!
3. Any kind of boosted application where increased flow is wanted.
Also, for those of you who dont know, big bore will unshroud the valves and allow for more flow from the heads, so any/all help in that area we can get is much welcomed. Plus, with the Boss block available, that makes it really nice for us mod motor guys to get more flow. Ultimate setup for N/A TFS heads in my book: Nice billet high compression(12:1+) rotating assembly inside a Boss block(aluminum or iron), CMS stage 4 TFS Spec cams, TFS intake manifold with adapter for twin blade throttle body. That setup would be where its at for an N/A 2v. I would guess that with the right fuel, like race gas or E85, that that setup would reach high 3xx's rwhp.
But people continue to mismatch setups and make people unimpressed.
however 408 stroker > 347 stroker all day. stock 302 block FTL...dart block is some high $ to do a badazz 347
03-18-2011, 08:44 AM
#29
Well for you straight line guys, yea by all means add a billion pounds to the front end of the car. I want a more nimble, lighter front end. If I did this build, i'd be going with an aluminum dart block with high compression and some stout afr heads i'd say.
