shorties vs. longtubes
05-19-2007, 12:49 AM
#11
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RE: shorties vs. longtubes
ORIGINAL: Timmay!!!
Shorties, you will spend 60% of the money and 80% of the effort installing only to get 4-5 hp. L/Ts will net you about 17-20 hp. Some things to consider with L/Ts:
A good header mid-pipe setup right nowwill run you at least 1200 bucks and up to 1400, poor cost to hp ratio
You will have to pull the headers anytime you want to pull the tranny.
They will never be CARB legal since you change the location of the cats from the factory location(if you keep the cats at all)
As soon as I decide what flavor of FI that I want I'll know if I'm going with L/Ts or not.
Shorties, you will spend 60% of the money and 80% of the effort installing only to get 4-5 hp. L/Ts will net you about 17-20 hp. Some things to consider with L/Ts:
A good header mid-pipe setup right nowwill run you at least 1200 bucks and up to 1400, poor cost to hp ratio
You will have to pull the headers anytime you want to pull the tranny.
They will never be CARB legal since you change the location of the cats from the factory location(if you keep the cats at all)
As soon as I decide what flavor of FI that I want I'll know if I'm going with L/Ts or not.
2- Whats CARB?
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05-22-2007, 03:30 PM
#13
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Erlanger, KY
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RE: shorties vs. longtubes
ORIGINAL: drbobvs
I wish someone would make a catted H for the LT's, I don't want to go X. Any leads?
I wish someone would make a catted H for the LT's, I don't want to go X. Any leads?
05-22-2007, 03:33 PM
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RE: shorties vs. longtubes
ORIGINAL: FrostByte
1- Is it true guys that if I wanted to change my clutch id have to pull headers too?
2- Whats CARB?
ORIGINAL: Timmay!!!
Shorties, you will spend 60% of the money and 80% of the effort installing only to get 4-5 hp. L/Ts will net you about 17-20 hp. Some things to consider with L/Ts:
A good header mid-pipe setup right nowwill run you at least 1200 bucks and up to 1400, poor cost to hp ratio
You will have to pull the headers anytime you want to pull the tranny.
They will never be CARB legal since you change the location of the cats from the factory location(if you keep the cats at all)
As soon as I decide what flavor of FI that I want I'll know if I'm going with L/Ts or not.
Shorties, you will spend 60% of the money and 80% of the effort installing only to get 4-5 hp. L/Ts will net you about 17-20 hp. Some things to consider with L/Ts:
A good header mid-pipe setup right nowwill run you at least 1200 bucks and up to 1400, poor cost to hp ratio
You will have to pull the headers anytime you want to pull the tranny.
They will never be CARB legal since you change the location of the cats from the factory location(if you keep the cats at all)
As soon as I decide what flavor of FI that I want I'll know if I'm going with L/Ts or not.
2- Whats CARB?
05-22-2007, 11:02 PM
#15
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RE: shorties vs. longtubes
Part of the larger gain from longtubes is usually found by eliminating the cats. You will find that shorties will gain you power, maybe only 5 to 8 horse atmax, but they do pick up the power throughout the powerband so its not always the max numbers that count.
Sure the longtubes are better, but if you're already runningwith no cats, they'll get you about 15 horse from what I've seen and they're a LOT of money and a PITA to install for that amount of gain.
Sure the longtubes are better, but if you're already runningwith no cats, they'll get you about 15 horse from what I've seen and they're a LOT of money and a PITA to install for that amount of gain.
05-23-2007, 12:17 AM
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RE: shorties vs. longtubes
ORIGINAL: 06hoss
JBAs are the only ones I know of that come that way. Be aware that use an inferior type of stainless (400 series vs 300 series for American Racing, Kooks, Dynatech, etc.)
ORIGINAL: drbobvs
I wish someone would make a catted H for the LT's, I don't want to go X. Any leads?
I wish someone would make a catted H for the LT's, I don't want to go X. Any leads?
06-05-2007, 05:03 PM
#19
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RE: shorties vs. longtubes
I have JBA shorties and the FRPP X-Pipe. The result = no CEL's, no Cat issues, no retune, improved breating, instant throttle response. It's all good. I read a lot of posts where the guys have issues with long tubes, be it CEL's or inspection problems.
06-07-2007, 08:28 PM
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RE: shorties vs. longtubes
SLP makes a X pipe set up that has high flow cats and bolts to the stock / shorty exhaust. If you decide to go LT, you pull off the pipes in front of the cats and bolt them up. Get tired of the cats? Slide them off and get a piece of pipe made to go in their place.