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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Does anybody know if it cuts out spark?
Old Oct 31, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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I don't believe so. The following is an excerpt from my 2007 Owners Manual:

"The system operates by detecting and controlling wheel spin. The system borrows many of the electronic and mechanical elements already present in the Anti-lock Braking System (ABS). Wheel-speed sensors allow excess rear wheel spin to be detected by the Traction Control portion of the ABS computer. Any excessive wheel spin is controlled by automatically applying and releasing the rear brakes
in conjunction with engine torque reductions."

The last part makes me wonder, "...engine torque reductions...", as to how they accomplish that.


Old Oct 31, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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I've not exactly tested our traction control. But I'm not real sure it works. Going around a sharp, wet curve. I gave it just a little extra throttle to see what would happen. Sure enough it started to break loose and I let off. The TCS light came on but I really think it was more me than the TCS that took back control. In short, I wouldn't rely on it.
Old Oct 31, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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We have traction control, not stability control. Traction control only detects wheel spin and then I believe Ford uses fuel cut instead of ignition cut to reduce engine torque. The traction control only helps you if you are going straight on a slick surface as it prevents massive wheel spin. If you want protection from over-steering on a curve, you need stability control which monitors other sensors than just wheel speed.
Old Oct 31, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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I knew it cut power somehow wasnt sure also have seen how to about putting a realy in that shuts it off on start up. My biggest fear is having it cut out on me when i really need to get on the gas hard. i would rather have al ittle wheel spin than have it die out on me when i want some throttle over stear. salesman had no clue when i bought the car started explaining to me about Limited slip
Old Oct 31, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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From this forum under FAQ

The Traction Control system will allow your vehicle to make better use of available traction on slippery surfaces while you are trying to accelerate or while your foot is on the accelerator pedal. The system is a driver aid which makes your vehicle easier to handle primarily on snow and ice covered roads.

how many people have to drive their mustang in the snow? thought thats what they made 4X4 or winter rats for?

During Traction Control operation, the traction control active light will illuminate. If your vehicle is equipped with a message center, a message will display during Traction Control operation. You may hear an electric motor type of sound coming from the engine compartment and the engine will not “rev-up” when you push further on the accelerator. This is normal system behavior and should be no reason for concern.
Old Oct 31, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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If i remember correctly, someone with a blower was saying that they did the TCS delete b/c the system cuts fuel which could lean out and blow his motor with how much boost he was running.
Old Oct 31, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 48prerunner
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The Traction Control system will allow your vehicle to make better use of available traction on slippery surfaces while you are trying to accelerate or while your foot is on the accelerator pedal. The system is a driver aid which makes your vehicle easier to handle primarily on snow and ice covered roads.

how many people have to drive their mustang in the snow? thought thats what they made 4X4 or winter rats for?

During Traction Control operation, the traction control active light will illuminate. If your vehicle is equipped with a message center, a message will display during Traction Control operation. You may hear an electric motor type of sound coming from the engine compartment and the engine will not “rev-up” when you push further on the accelerator. This is normal system behavior and should be no reason for concern.

So, are you saying it is not on all the time? I thought it was always on, but you could turn it off by pushing the TCS button, if you was looking for more performance and not wanting it to limit your fuel.
Old Oct 31, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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There is a mod that I think disables TC from defaulting in the "on" mode so when you start the car TC is off but still allows you to push the TC button to re-engage. Can't find it, though. I typically shut it off when I start the car but I'll leave it on or turn it on if the roads are wet.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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yeah i found that how to mod a while ago too there is also some dude on ebay that sells a kit with the relay and connectors i might do it after i get a few more miles and sure all bugs are out.



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