4.6L V8 Technical Discussions Any questions about engine, transmission, or gearing can be asked here!

Cold air intake w/o programmer

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 18, 2009 | 08:09 AM
  #1  
diehardfordfan2's Avatar
diehardfordfan2
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 6
From: Pennsylvania
Question Cold air intake w/o programmer

Hey guys
I talked to someone the other day that told me my 09 GT wouldn't run right if I got an intake without a programmer. Has anyone done this and could you let me know how things worked out. Thanks
Old Nov 18, 2009 | 08:53 AM
  #2  
wilkinda's Avatar
wilkinda
2010 Section Moderator
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,328
From: Lithia, FL
Default

I'm gonna move this to the proper area.....
Old Nov 18, 2009 | 09:00 AM
  #3  
jz's Avatar
jz
3rd Gear Member
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 763
From: PA
Default

Not sure why it wouldn't run right, or why it's any different than that earlier years. I would check the websites of manufacturers who sell the ones that do not require a tune.

when I first bought my K&N I didn't have a tune. there was a small increase and I was happy with it. About a year later I bought the SCT and wow what a difference. !
Old Nov 18, 2009 | 09:57 AM
  #4  
Nuke's Avatar
Nuke
6th Gear Member
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 16,182
From: PA to KY ('07) to IL ('09) to MS ('10) to FL ('11)
Default

A stand-alone, no-tune-required CAI SHOULD run fine on your '09 except that there are the few that have reported throwing a CEL for running lean. In other words, the PCM couldn't adjust enough for the additional air. Running lean can eventually cause severe engine damage. But even if it doesn't throw a code, you're not getting the benefit w/o a tune. A stand-alone CAI might net you 4-6 RWHP or so.

A tune required CAI and a tune (CAI & tune combo) from one of the better tuners (tune writers) will net you 15-25 or more RWHP. Even the custom 87 tune kicks major azz over the stock 87 tune.
Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:14 PM
  #5  
stealth_GT's Avatar
stealth_GT
6th Gear Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 6,716
From: North Pole
Default

a proper tune without a CAI would be more benficial than just a CAI by itself IMO..

(if) the MAF is the same size, all you'd be doing is sucking in hot air.. more of it lol.
Old Nov 18, 2009 | 05:15 PM
  #6  
rford426's Avatar
rford426
4th Gear Member
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,904
From: OK&TX
Default

^Im with him on the tune no cai would be better than cai and no tune...Most cai that don't require tune your not gonna get much...So get the tuner first no matter what...
Old Nov 18, 2009 | 08:01 PM
  #7  
chronos's Avatar
chronos
3rd Gear Member
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 750
From: CA
Default

He may just be doing it for the looks, and not performance.
Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:59 AM
  #8  
Diabolical!'s Avatar
Diabolical!
5th Gear Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,491
From: New Orleans
Default

No-tune CAIs are not worth the minimal gains you get for the money.
Old Nov 19, 2009 | 08:57 PM
  #9  
REDBOSS1's Avatar
REDBOSS1
3rd Gear Member
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 879
From: Illinois
Default

I got mine from Brenspeed and did not put the tune on till I got home after 3 miles. The car had no ***** until I put the tune in if that is what you are asking.
Old Nov 20, 2009 | 01:54 PM
  #10  
Nuke's Avatar
Nuke
6th Gear Member
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 16,182
From: PA to KY ('07) to IL ('09) to MS ('10) to FL ('11)
Default

Originally Posted by 2008GT/CSBuckeye
I got mine from Brenspeed and did not put the tune on till I got home after 3 miles. The car had no ***** until I put the tune in if that is what you are asking.
And had you driven much farther with the CAI and w/o the tune, you'd have thrown a CEL.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:47 PM.